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Gingrich aide is out after blasting Mormonism
Des Moines Register | December 14, 2011 | Jennifer Jacobs

Posted on 12/14/2011 7:06:27 AM PST by CedarDave

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Gingrich aide is out after blasting Mormonism


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: gingrich; mormons; newt; religion
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Link above is from Drudge.

Fox News just reported the Gingrich political director in Iowa resigned because he called Mormonism a "cult" last Wednesday during a focus group meeting. The Fox report made it seem that Gingrich had been the one who referred to Mormons as a cult. I'm relieved Newt hasn't said that but I wouldn't have been surprised if he did as we all know he can be a loose cannon at times.

1 posted on 12/14/2011 7:06:30 AM PST by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

It is a cult - what’s wrong with calling it such?


2 posted on 12/14/2011 7:09:25 AM PST by porter_knorr
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To: CedarDave

Further information from the article is that Craig Bergman had not been hired for the Gingrich campaign at the time of the comment, and campaign spokesman R.C. Hammond said the statement is “inconsistent with Newt 2012’s pledge to run a positive and solutions-orientated campaign.”

Additionally, the chairwoman for Gingrich’s Iowa campaign, Linda Upmeyer, said she has never heard Gingrich say anything negative about Mormonism.


3 posted on 12/14/2011 7:14:11 AM PST by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave
“A lot of the evangelicals believe God would give us four more years of Obama just for the opportunity to expose the cult of Mormon,” Bergman said

How can, supposedly, intelligent people who are influential positions make such stupid comments? Don't they know it will come back to bite them in the butt? Ignorant people get on my friggin' nerves.
4 posted on 12/14/2011 7:14:33 AM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: CedarDave

mormonISM is a cult.


5 posted on 12/14/2011 7:17:57 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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6 posted on 12/14/2011 7:18:08 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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To: porter_knorr

Yeah, what’s wrong with hating fellow Americans who vote more consistently conservative that whatever cult it is that you belong to? < / sarcasm >


7 posted on 12/14/2011 7:18:30 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: porter_knorr; All

It is a cult - what’s wrong with calling it such?
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Come on porter_knorr; I don’t believe you asked that question. Whether it is a cult or not is beside the point. I’m not Mormon but, if you let a dufus, s**t-for-brains, junior political hack like this guy determine who or what is a cult, your religion might be next. I’m of the Charismatic/Pentecostal persuasion. Up until a very few years ago, Baptist and other Evangelicals considered us a cult. Wait until they decide that YOU belong to a cultish religion.


8 posted on 12/14/2011 7:19:06 AM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: CedarDave

We need all hands on deck to beat Obama. That being said some protestans won’t vote for a Morman. Also no non-morman will ever win the Utah primary with a Mormon in the primary. They don’t report that one.


9 posted on 12/14/2011 7:22:23 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Mitt Romney, a piss poor choice)
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It is a cult - what’s wrong with calling it such?

Atheists refer to my religion {Catholic} as a cult, I take offense to that.

My neighbor is a Mormon and is very devout, and according to him, is a good Christian.

I know he is a good man and neighbor.

If you are a Christian and not a Catholic, you belong a sect of Christianity that has been started by a man, Martin Luther, just like Joseph Smith started Mormonism.

You disdain the Mormons yet you hold your beliefs {whatever they are} to be valid?

What a hypocrite!

10 posted on 12/14/2011 7:22:36 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: CedarDave

Interesting. Newt will “speak truth” about the Mideast, ie. the Palestinians are an invented people; but not about Mormonism that it is a cult. I don’t know why this is such a problem.

The Mormon organization is one of the largest secret societies in the world. It is also one of richest. No one but members can enter their ‘temples.’ Male members progress in their knowledge of secret ceremonies as they ascend various levels of authority. Those who attain these secrets take vows they will not reveal them (even to death!). All members are forbidden to say anything negative about the organization and if they do, they are kicked out. (Just check out how many BYU historians have gotten into trouble because they dared to question what Salt Lake City claims are the origins of Mormonism.) They must give 10% of their income to the organization and their bishops discipline them if they don’t.

Mormons claim to be Christian but do not believe the basic creeds of Christianity. Joseph Smith claimed all the denominations were so corrupt that God had to raise up another prophet (ie. himself) to cleanse the church - which is a direct assault on basic Christian doctrine about Christ. In American history, Mormonism has been always been referred to a cult. As an historian, Newt knows this fact.

So if Newt is the ‘truth teller,’ why fire an aide who simply tells the truth?


12 posted on 12/14/2011 7:30:17 AM PST by Madam Theophilus
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To: CedarDave

We’ve been making a point about how good it is that all the candidates are being vetted in the primary process, but there is one candidates attribute that isn’t being thoroughly vetted: Romney’s Mormonism.

Anyone that thinks the eventual GOP nominee (whoever it is) won’t get a full anal examine that runs right up to November 2012—an examine that includes their religious beliefs—is delusional.

Should Romney get the nomination, we’ll see more exposes on Mormonism—beliefs, history, et...—in one year than we’ve seen in the last 100 years. 60 Minutes will do multiple feature stories; the NY Times will have stories on the front page about it.

The liberal media will be going all out to get Obama reelected. Since he doesn’t have a record to run on, all they can do is attack the GOP nominee. Those attacks will certainly include the GOP candidates religious beliefs.

The problem with Mormonism is: it doesn’t pass the reasonable person test. No reasonable person that looks at the evidence for and against Mormonism and balances it in a clear, dispassionate, logical manner would come to the conclusion that Mormonism is true.

And, that is where Mormonism will be a problem for Romney in the general election. As potential voters, for the first time in their lives, get a clear presentation from the press; look at the evidence; and then look at Mitt Romney and say to themselves “He actually believes THAT is true?”


13 posted on 12/14/2011 7:32:22 AM PST by Brookhaven
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To: porter_knorr

“It is a cult - what’s wrong with calling it such?”

Needlessly alienating potential voters, the unforgivable sin in the view of any politician.


14 posted on 12/14/2011 7:33:13 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: CedarDave

It is a CULT, but if I were a presidential candidate I wouldnt say so;o)


15 posted on 12/14/2011 7:33:23 AM PST by TheGunny
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To: Psalm 144

I think Green Bay Packers fans are a cult, but they vote also.


16 posted on 12/14/2011 7:36:55 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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V people make that statement all the time. Where is your evidence? Romney is a liberal and garners 94% of lds votes. Reid is a liberal and garners a majority of lds votes. Nearly every lds politician is a liberal and is still elected by a majority of lds members. Utah predominately lds has sided with the gay agenda, and illegal immigration, no probation against abortion (based on the rules and regs about it ending with "if you pray about it and god says its ok), they use their so called mission work to avoid military service (Romney went to France in order not to serve) - hardly conservative.
lds do not vote more conservative than anyone else. It is great PR on the part of SLC lds to portray themselves in such a light, it is however simply not true.
17 posted on 12/14/2011 7:45:30 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: TheGunny
"It is a CULT, but if I were a presidential candidate I wouldnt say so;o)"

But the guy's point was right on. If Mitt gets the nod many, many Evangelicals will tune out (as conservatives did to McCain) and Obama will win. Right or wrong that is the reality and I don't see anything wrong with pointing it out.

18 posted on 12/14/2011 7:51:34 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Madam Theophilus
Mormons claim to be Christian but do not believe the basic creeds of Christianity.

The only Christian religion founded by the Son of God, Jesus Christ, is Catholicism, yet Protestants believe that they will get into Heaven.

Where do you get the moral righteousness to be the evaluator of another person, that professes to be Christian, and you disbelieve them.

Your statements, and many other Protestants of all denominations, ring hollow with your rejection of Peter and the Popes that followed him.

Every time this Mormonism is a cult crap comes up, and a Catholic mentions that there is only one true version of Christianity, every Protestant that called the Mormons cultists, gets the red ass.

I say believe what you choose, but don't try to rationalize your beliefs by denigrating the Mormons.

When we die, God will have it sorted out.

19 posted on 12/14/2011 7:52:09 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: Vigilanteman

Who said anything about hate?


20 posted on 12/14/2011 7:53:05 AM PST by porter_knorr
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