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To: all the best; Allegra; lormand; shibumi; Nachum; SJackson; NObama; 2ndDivisionVet
Opposing foreign aid to Israel or any other (hopefully all other) country/ies is common sense and not anti-semitism. Criticising Israel is not anti-semitism. Fair enough.

Bear in mind, as even the paleosurrenderman concedes, that the United States pushing a phony "peace process" on Israel as a price of foreign aid is NOT common sense. Israel should reclaim its independence and whack Iran as necessary. Ditto the Palestinian anything, Hamas, Al Qaeda, and every other gang of Islamofascist thugs. If the United States wants a piece of that action, that is not a bad idea either.

Pushing, as El Run Paulie does constantly, for a situation in which Iran WILL have nuclear weapons, WILL NOT relent on its stated intention to wipe Israel off the map (and not with washcloths but with nukes), and can be believed by any rational person, will at least stand as anti-semitism until any even more legitimate example comes along. El Run is not concerned in the least over the imminent threat faced by the Israeli people who have long been American allies. When Israel is nuked by Paulie's Iranian pals, "OOOOOPS!" just won't suffice as a response. Nuking Iran in retaliation, while emotionally somewhat satisfying, won't really suffice either. Absolutely preventing Ahmadinejad and the mullahs from nuking Israel is a far more desirable response than letting Iran nuke Israel or our wiping Iran off the face of the earth in retaliation.

One more item: Drilling here, drilling now, using fracking as necessary everywhere that oil may be found in the US, taking control by Navy if necessary of the oil resources of the Gulf of Mexico and the waters off Cuba, crushing Obozo, reversing his policies that try to have Americans freeze in the dark while increasingly impoverished by EPA thwarting of drilling, will effective impose the best of sanctions against Iran and every Islamofascist oil satrapy in existence. Bye, bye OPEC!!! $1.00/gallon gasoline is the most eloquent response. Let 'em eat oil soaked sand in Iran.

One final item: When actual conservatives (which leaves out Ron Paul who is just a modern version of cowardly crackpot Neville Chamberlain) criticize the regime in Washington or any other manifestation of tyranny in America, that is one thing. When anti-American serial crackpots like Paulie continually beat their gums trying to eliminate our nation's defenses in favor of letters of marque and reprisal (and maybe blunderbusses and rowboats) and about how our enemies are only being reasonable in being our enemies, that is a quite different thing. Especially in time of war (which does not require magic words or a fill-in-the-blanks form passed as a Congressional Declaration of War) when Congressional resolutions approving and funding wars will certainly suffice whatever Code Pink or paleoPaulie may imagine.

34 posted on 12/15/2011 12:30:38 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: BlackElk
Of course opposing aid isn't antisemitism, and I doubt is antisemitic though he's clearly anti Israel, sympathetic to arab revisionism.

Leaving aside his fetis with neocons and the Likud party, and the "Jewish Lobby", the only powerful lobby in DC, there's his view of the region as expressed in his book.

He does acknowledge a few hundred thousand were expelled a few millenia ago, and that a few families stayed. And unlike the Arab world that the Jews who moved to Palestine (don't think he knows that was the name for the Jewish Homeland, stupidity when you're commenting on an important topic. However he describes Zionism as a movement of Orthodox Jews (Herzl would be surprised as would have most of the "Orthodox" of the day) who wanted to separate secular European Jews from the culture they had assimilated into so well. Secular European Jews fully integrated and accepted into late 19th century Europe, like Alfred Dreyfus. Is Paul stupid, or a revisionist.

Then his history conveniently skips forward to post WWI, where the UN decided to partition Palestine. Apparently out of thin air, no Mandate, no partitioning at San Remo, no pogrums. The UN just up and decided to do it.

Probably most telling is his experience meeting a young palestinian attending school in the US. Her story about how her family was thrown off land in her family for centuries. To build Israeli settlements. This happened in the early 1950s, clear proof that Ron considers Tel Aviv a settlement. Like San Antonio I guess. But what the heck, it was just a group of people taking land from others on the specious arguement that G-d told them to do it. Classic pro-Arab fairy tale from the Congressman.

BTW, his #1 book to read on the topic, Jimmy Carter's Apartheid work. It's on the Code Pink suggested reading list too.

35 posted on 12/18/2011 2:12:57 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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