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Obama's Justice Department joins Britain's 'Climategate' leaker manhunt
Washington Examiner ^ | 12/15/11 7:57 AM | Christopher C. Horner

Posted on 12/15/2011 3:22:00 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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I have seen apparent proof that the United States Department of Justice (DOJ), Criminal Division, is working with United Kingdom police to pursue the leaker of the 2009 and 2011 “Climategate” emails. 

I have learned that last week DOJ sent a search-and-seizure letter to the host of three climate-change "skeptic" blogs. Last night, UK police raided a blogger’s home and removed computers and equipment.

The leaked records derailed “cap-and-trade” legislation in the U.S. and, internationally, as well as talks for a successor to the Kyoto Protocol. The emails and computer code were produced with taxpayer funds and held on taxpayer-owned computers both in the US and the UK, and all were subject to the UK Freedom of Information Act, the U.S. Freedom of Information Act and state FOIA laws.

They also were being unlawfully withheld in both the UK (by the University of East Anglia) and the U.S. (Department of Commerce’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), including stonewalling me for two years, and three other requesters for longer).

The hunt involving U.S. and UK law enforcement agencies is now escalating. On Wednesday night UK time, six detectives with the UK police (Norfolk Police Department) raided the home of at least one blogger, removing his equipment to look for clues to the identity of leaker “FOIA 2011.”

On December 9, DOJ sent a preservation letter under 18 U.S.C 2703(f) to the publication platform (website host) Wordpress. This authority authorizes the government to request an Internet Service Provider (ISP) to preserve all records of a specific account for 90 days while the feds work on a warrant.

Norfolk PD affirmed to the subject of at least one of their raids that this international law enforcement hunt is for the leaker, meaning not for those whose acts the leaker exposed by making public emails containing admissions in their own words.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climategate; climategate2; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax
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1 posted on 12/15/2011 3:22:08 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: steveab; TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Lancey Howard; ...
From the Washington Examiner:
2 posted on 12/15/2011 3:23:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Instead of going after some of the potentially most destructive threats the civilization (the Climate Alarmists and their economy destroying Freedom stealing scam) they’re going after the guy who TOLD THE TRUTH?!?!?!?!?!

“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. “
~George Orwell


3 posted on 12/15/2011 3:26:40 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bump

don’t believe the government, they will track you down!


4 posted on 12/15/2011 3:27:34 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It sounds like the tree of liberty needs to be watered in Britain
5 posted on 12/15/2011 3:28:09 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The elites are going to do whatever it takes to keep the rabble down.

Science, or at any rate the prestige of scientists, will be the loser in this. The "scientists" who are behind this perversion of climatology are doing a horrible thing.

6 posted on 12/15/2011 3:29:42 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The late great George Putnam was correct: “We are living in the age of insanity.”
7 posted on 12/15/2011 3:32:25 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

All the money that could have been scammed out of people and nations, but the emails were found out. Oh boo hoo hoo hoo!

But on the other hand, the whole “science” of climate change is based on a 0.04% percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere which you can literally call zero point zero. ...Let me write that again: ZERO POINT ZERO!

WHY doesn’y ANYONE talk about this? It is DRIVING ME CRAZY! Not even Freepers acknowledge what I am saying here!

These scam artists are basing man made global warming on a gas that has a value oF ZERO POINT ZERO in the earths atmposphere! 0.04%!!!

The mass of the earths atmosphere is 5000 TRILLION tons! And it IS A GAS!!! 80 MILES high all around the earth, NOT a freakin “thin layer” like that absolute sociopathic psychopath Al Gore says.

How can ANYONE believe we can affect ANYTHING of that size? 100 years from now, 1000 years from now, a million years from now, granted that the world does not explode or a 20 gigaton meteorite doesn’t slam into earth, it will still be ZERO POINT FREAKIN ZERO!


8 posted on 12/15/2011 3:39:29 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Nancy Pelosi - The #1 reason why we need a Constitutional amendment for Congressional drug testing.)
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To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson; Alamo-Girl; LucyT; BIGLOOK; Gritty
Last night's thread:

UK police seize computers of skeptic blogger in England

Also from

9 posted on 12/15/2011 3:40:52 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: PATRIOT1876
Instead of going after some of the potentially most destructive threats the civilization (the Climate Alarmists and their economy destroying Freedom stealing scam) they’re going after the guy who TOLD THE TRUTH?!?!?!?!?!

The good news is they'll probably be sending a bunch of affirmative-action hires to do it.

10 posted on 12/15/2011 3:40:58 PM PST by tacticalogic (e)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But of course. There was some big money behind setting up the carbon credit exchanges and billions more to be made in this huge scam. We are living in a dangerous time.


11 posted on 12/15/2011 3:41:24 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This doesn’t surprise me a bit. The P.O.S. now wants our personal e-mail addresses so that he can harass us, and possibly come after us later on. Obama has the mentality of a totalitarian thug.


12 posted on 12/15/2011 3:45:05 PM PST by jpl (The government spent another half a million bucks in the time it just took you to read this tagline.)
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To: All
Got interrupted ...Another thread:

Climategate: Obama's boot boys strike back

13 posted on 12/15/2011 3:45:47 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So the full might of the justice systems of the US and UK are now focused with laser-like precision to find the scumbag or scumbags who blew the lid of their multi-trillion dollar scam. Got it.


14 posted on 12/15/2011 3:49:35 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; LucyT

Obama is angry at upstarts screwing with Marxist-Leninist plans.

For LucyT - more pieces to the puzzle.

See: Wall Street Insider: Leo Gerard

http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/12/15/wall-street-insider-%e2%80%9cleo-gerard%e2%80%9d/

[SNIP]

Wall Street Insider: No – people who wish for a more stable America are not to be found within the Obama White House. Quite the opposite.

Ulster Man: How do these people destabilize the economy? How do they profit from that? If I’m understanding you correctly– that’s what you’re describing here, right?

WSI: For the most part – yes.

UM: So give me an example of that happening.

WSI: Global Warming.

UM: Please explain that.

WSI: Global Warming is rooted in the manufactured belief the earth is in crisis – and that the United States is the single largest contributor to this crisis. Crisis relates quite well to chaos, yes? So the manufacturers of the Global Warming “crisis” are threatening widespread chaos – and making a very forceful case that government is the only mechanism in which to prevent that chaos. We are talking about trillions of dollars at stake here now – the single biggest scam in the history of humankind. That’s Global Warming.

So who then actually benefits? Big Government proponents, certainly. Various 3rd world nations who hope to compete financially with the more developed nations… Investors in the so-called “green economy”. And don’t forget China – who will happily communicate the need to fight climate change with one side of their mouth while going on full speed ahead developing its own economy on the other – as American politicians work to decimate the economy here at home, taking money from the myriad of environmental groups, who in turn are so closely linked to the union groups, who in turn dominate the Democratic Party and a growing number within the Republican Party.

Mr. Soros is a major component of all of that of course. And I will repeat it again – the money being potentially generated by this is trillions of dollars. Not billions – trillions.

UM: How is Soros involved in the Global Warming movement?

WSI: (Eyebrows raise) Where do you think so many of the grants come from to “study” the impacts of Global Warming? The vast majority who make their living studying this fabricated issue do so at the bidding of Mr. Soros and his supporters – and that reality has been in place for some time The IPS, the Alliance for Climate Protection…there are so many layers that have been produced by the Soros’ interests it would take us days just to mention each one. The entertainment industry, advertising, education…it has permeated every facet of American society. The expense to do so has been tens of billions of dollars – but the payoff if successful is far more.

UM: And the labor unions are involved?

WSI: Absolutely. At every conceivable level. If not for the labor unions approval of the Global Warming issue – there would be but a handful of Democrats giving it any attention at all – President Obama included.

UM: How are the unions involved?

WSI: Are you aware of the term “Blue-Green Alliance”?

UM: No.

WSI: It is a partnership among some of the largest and most influential labor unions and equally large and influential environmental groups. The very nature of the relationship is undeniable proof that Global Warming has almost nothing to do with concerns about climate and everything to do with profit and power. The Blue-Green alliance has millions of members – from teachers, steel workers, government employees, the National Wildlife Federation…every major union and environmental group is involved. All those green energy jobs? All the environmental regulations that are to be implemented? Small business will be destroyed and only large union-backed/government-approved corporations and government entities will remain – the essence of a Statist economy. The very thing Adolph Hitler developed in Nazi Germany. The very same thing.

UM: With all due respect to your own personal experiences with the Nazis…this is all a bit vague. Can you possibly give me something more concrete?Something or someone to tie this all in? I understand Obama – President Obama, receives a lot of support from labor unions. I agree that labor unions do not have the best interests of a free market economy at heart. I understand that part of it. I’m having some difficulty linking Global Warming with the labor unions though. The two seem to contradict one another’s own interests. The Solyndra scandal – I assume you still believe that to be the bigger scandal the administration is facing?

WSI: Yes.

UM: The Solyndra thing…that seems to be more along the lines of pay-to-play politics, right? Solyndra and other companies supported Obama’s campaign and are then paid back with stimulus dollars. It’s not right – it should be prosecuted…but it’s also unfortunately a fairly common occurrence in our political system, right? And so, this big conspiracy concept – the labor unions and the environmental groups all working together to…to re-shape the American economy, or the world economy…I’m not saying you’re wrong. You certainly have far more insight into this than I would – but I’m not seeing it. I’m not understanding how they all tie in together, and Soros, and Barack – President Obama. Can you outline all of that for me? I realize we are working under a time constraint here – but any help on that would really be appreciated.

WSI: That would take far too long. What I will do is give you a name. Go back and do some research – this information is available…one of the great benefits of this new technology – and then we can pick this up here at a later time. That way you will be involved in the conversation with a far better understanding of what we are attempting to discuss. Does that sound acceptable to you?

UM: Absolutely. And I apologize for my ignorance on so much of these details. This process sometimes sends me in so many different directions trying to find answers…I am grateful for you taking the time to explain it to me. –Name withheld- doesn’t have the patience for that, and the frustration levels…

WSI: They mean well – you can trust that. I don’t agree with their tactics, or their diminished choice of language…but they are doing God’s work, and at great risk to themselves – professionally, and most likely personally as well. I would agree though that patience is a virtue of which they have little time for.

UM: So the name – who is the name that will tie all of this together? The labor unions, the environmental groups, Soros, President Obama…you have a single name that links all of that?

WSI: Gerard. Leo Gerard…


15 posted on 12/15/2011 3:51:46 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

These actions being taken by Obama’s boot boys, probably explains the reason why the Kenyan did not head off to the islands with his beloved and the kids. He has some things to make sure get done in the next few weeks. And I taint thinking of his interests on signing off on any Senate/HR bills that might come to his desk.


16 posted on 12/15/2011 4:15:37 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I have posted some mathematical analysis here on FR over the past few years. I also question the magnitude of the anthropologic impact on the eqation that determines the y equation of CO2 concentration in the atmosphere.

And like you, I have wondered why a temperature lagging trace gas is considered a driver of temperature variation. If the science is settled then where are the mathematical proofs? Where is the statistical analysis? If they are referring to the software package you can download from ipcc then that doesn't contain proofs.

17 posted on 12/15/2011 4:30:21 PM PST by gcraig (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Meanwhile....

Former Thatcher advisor Lord Monckton to pursue fraud charges against Climategate scientists

18 posted on 12/15/2011 4:38:45 PM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Global Warming / Climate Change is only a means by which the one worlder insiders on their trek of control will exploit billions from the common people thus hungry people will accept a bone instead of a fight. As well, it has more to do with those same people seeking the control over governments world wide. If governments accept as fact and act upon GW/CC as a serious threat caused by man’s existence the single law that results will become the pathway for which more laws will follow thus formulating and founding a legitimate New World Order. To minimize outrage of their harnessing power over the people they have to first have a law that literally allows them to connect every country on every continent masked as a common cause for the good of the people. Once that is achieved it will eventually evolve into nullifying independent countries and the world can then be divided into 10 regions. Thus the ten horns of the beast if you will and the New World Government. It is taking place now!


19 posted on 12/15/2011 4:53:42 PM PST by drypowder
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What unreleased documents do you think are on the hard drives?

Must be pretty damaging if they are brazen enough to do this to squelch it.

Lord Monckton will nail their hides to the wall.

Bring on the popcorn.


20 posted on 12/15/2011 5:32:12 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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