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KUHNER: Obama’s Watergate (Fast & Furious/Operation Castaway)
Washington Times ^ | December 15, 2011 | By Jeffrey T. Kuhner

Posted on 12/15/2011 6:01:59 PM PST by Texas Fossil

A year ago this week, U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered. He died protecting his country from brutal Mexican gangsters. Two AK-47 assault rifles were found at his death site. We now know the horrifying truth: Agent Terry was killed by weapons that were part of an illegal Obama administration operation to smuggle arms to the dangerous drug cartels. He was a victim of his own government. This is not only a major scandal; it is a high crime that potentially reaches all the way to the White House, implicating senior officials. It is President Obama’s Watergate.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fastfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; obama; obamaswatergate; terry; watergate
"What did Mr. Obama know? Massive gun-smuggling by the U.S. government into a foreign country does not happen without the explicit knowledge and approval of leading administration officials. It’s too big, too risky and too costly. Mr. Holder may not be protecting just himself and his cronies. Is he protecting the president?",/P>

Bingo We have a Winner!!

1 posted on 12/15/2011 6:02:07 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

You know damn well that, were the political parties reversed, Agent Terry’s family members would be sitting next to the First Lady at the upcoming SOTU, and featured once again (very probably) at the Democrat National Convention next summer.


2 posted on 12/15/2011 6:09:45 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Texas Fossil; MestaMachine; marktwain; Joe Brower

Chip-chip-chip....
Here, a big chunk at once.
And 100s were not murdered at the Watergate.


3 posted on 12/15/2011 6:11:23 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

By any standard I can think of, this was worse than Watergate and by many times multiplied.

It has one similarity to Watergate in that both involved trying to cover up what happened.

The difference is in Fast and Furious, the actual crime is much, much, more serious than the cover up, but it seems even the conservatives seem to be pushing the cover-up story as the big one.

No, aiding in the murder of American Federal Employees and maybe hundreds of citizens South of our border is the worse crime and by far.


4 posted on 12/15/2011 6:17:45 PM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog

Yes, but Democrats did it; they will get a pass.


5 posted on 12/15/2011 6:23:44 PM PST by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: Texas Fossil

I would be very surprised if we see any removals due to Fast and Furious. It’s unfortunate, but it’s the most likely scenario.


6 posted on 12/15/2011 6:25:13 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Texas Fossil

Obama and Holder apparently still think they are untouchable. Probably they are with the media having their backs.

They are right in the open sending far more guns to Mexico with these being legal, at least until they get to Mexico. Then they will join all the other guns “supplied to Mexican Criminals” by Americans due to “our lax gun laws”.

They have been caught with their pants down and are acting like no one saw them and according to the media for the most part, no one did see them.


7 posted on 12/15/2011 6:26:36 PM PST by yarddog
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To: DooDahhhh
So you're saying Judy (R) is gonna take the punch from Punch (D) and roll over.

More puppet theater folks.


Vote for the socialist of your choice!

8 posted on 12/15/2011 6:27:28 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Texas Fossil

Jeffrey T. Kuhner better watch his ass, or he’ll be among the first group of American citizens to be picked up and shipped off to Gitmo without charge, indictment, trial or conviction.

Think it can’t happen?


9 posted on 12/15/2011 6:27:50 PM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: Texas Fossil
FBI Criminal Informant Complicit in Brian Terry’s Death (PJM Exclusive)

The rip crew was in Peck Canyon that evening with the intention of stealing money and drugs from a specific shipment of which they had prior knowledge.

(snip)

The rip crew knew to be in Peck Canyon that December evening because a CI working for the FBI found out about a smuggling run — from the FBI.

(snip)

The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) — through its own CIs and communications intercepts — was also aware of the planned assault.

Neither the DEA nor FBI warned Border Patrol about the expected criminal activity.

(snip)

The federal government will still not reveal if one of the two WASR-10 AK-pattern semi-automatic rifles located near the scene — provided to the Sinaloa cartel via Operation Fast and Furious — was the weapon that put a bullet through Brian Terry’s heart. The existence of a third recovered gun, an SKS carbine, has been disputed by the FBI despite the fact it had been talked about openly in the beginning of the investigation among federal agents.

Multiple sources tell PJM that this third weapon “disappeared” because it was the weapon carried by the FBI CI who ran the rip crew. When it was recovered near the scene of the murder and subsequently traced by the ATF, it traced back to the FBI CI via the gun shop in Texas where it was purchased.


10 posted on 12/15/2011 6:30:32 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Question:

When are Democrats/Progressives/Communists ever held accountable for treasonous and subversive activities?

(Answer: Never.)

IMHO


11 posted on 12/15/2011 6:31:22 PM PST by ripley
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To: Texas Fossil

When high officials conspire to diminish a point of the Bill of Rights, and cause the death of hundreds of foreign nationals in the process, at the very least this begs for impeachment or removal from office under criminal indictment.

Given the effect they hoped to have on the Constitution, this touches on the subject of treason.


12 posted on 12/15/2011 6:33:46 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat
Here is a petition to call for Eric Holder's prosecution.
Tea Party Petition to Prosecute Eric Holder

After signing the petition you will get an automatic way to send an e-mail to your Congressman and Senators. You can use their text or fill in your own.

I strongly encourage all FReepers to sign that petition and to send their own thoughts about this to their Congress critters. Let them know that you are aware of this issue and that you are not going to forget about it. Let them know you will be watching to see what they do about it.

13 posted on 12/15/2011 6:35:22 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: mkjessup

I am beginning to worry that we have approached the days in Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, and China currently.

Any official who tries to shine the light on these Obama cockroaches will be prosecuted by the U.S. Justice Dept. Same goes for journalists who don’t play along with the party line.

These people are in real danger of going to jail on manufactured charges just like Scooter Libby


14 posted on 12/15/2011 6:36:38 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Tench_Coxe

Let me say this about that:

This SHOULD be Obamas Watergate, his Waterloo, and his Bridge too far.

Now lets look at reality.

He has the media in his pocket, The Senate in his pocket, and the Supreme Court in his pocket.In the case of the Supreme Court the fact that they find every excuse imaginable NOT to look at his credentials, tells us that they are in his pocket or just plain Chicken crap.

With no Republican with the courage to even ask for his Bona fides they are not about to make a stink.Soon Mr. Issa will fade away, and about election time it will all be over.


15 posted on 12/15/2011 6:37:36 PM PST by Venturer
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To: DooDahhhh
Yes, but Democrats did it; they will get a pass.

There are some serious Republican bulldogs on their a$$. A lot will depend on the GOP maintaining control of house chairmanships and whether they can gain control in the Senate. I.e., this next election is important on all levels.

16 posted on 12/15/2011 6:41:03 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: yarddog
no one did see them

Some did see this. And what has been "seen" cannot be "unseen".

17 posted on 12/15/2011 6:51:07 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Venturer

Fast and furious will be a good litmus test to see if the country really is a country of laws or one which has been taken over by Marxist criminals.

The facts are pretty much known by now and they clearly are the stuff of criminal activity used to push an agenda.

If at least Holder doesn’t go to jail, then we will know the Commies have won and it is all over.

All we can do is fight on, hoping there is still a chance to win when all indications are that we have already lost.


18 posted on 12/15/2011 6:53:18 PM PST by yarddog
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To: mkjessup

This is the 1st article I have seen in a well known paper suggesting a link between Obozo and the actual operation of Fast & Furious.

Kuhner’s logic is flawless. Let’s see what happens now.

Remember Woodward & Bernstein?


19 posted on 12/15/2011 6:53:37 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

I remember the Democraps had a real hissy fit when Poindexter and North went around the Boland ammendment by playing both sides in the Iran-Irag war selling weapons and using the profits to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. I thought it was brilliant in all aspects (it kept Iran and Iraq shooting at each other, it fueled the guerilla war against the Democrap buddy Sandinistaa, and it short-circuited the Boland ammendment).

Later they had no problem when Clinton was accused of skimming off the top on the illegal drug flights to Central America in and out of Mena, Arkansas.


20 posted on 12/15/2011 6:53:49 PM PST by OrioleFan
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To: TigersEye

Yep. And that weapon will not be found.

Think also about the number of agencies implicated:

BATF
Justice
Homeland Security
ICE
State Department

This is not a low level scam but from the top.

No One, could have “signed off” on this but Obozo himself.

Ad the money laundering and we have a real party.


21 posted on 12/15/2011 6:58:13 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: yarddog

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2820998/posts?page=29#29


22 posted on 12/15/2011 7:03:11 PM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: Texas Fossil
This is the 1st article I have seen in a well known paper suggesting a link between Obozo and the actual operation of Fast & Furious.
Kuhner’s logic is flawless. Let’s see what happens now.
Remember Woodward & Bernstein?


I do remember them. But they were wild game hunting against a Republican.

The most we might see would be a resignation from that asswipe Holder, and the Kenyan Kid and his willing media accomplices will paint it as a case of Holder being hounded from his job by "mean spirited, obstructionist Republicans", just you wait and see.

The 'Rats, libs and RINOs have been waiting for more than 50 years to retaliate for "Who Promoted Peress" with "Who Hounded Holder?"
23 posted on 12/15/2011 7:14:48 PM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: OrioleFan
Clinton was accused of skimming off the top

no "accused" he was paid off. That is what Whitewater was really about, money laundering. FACT. For Slick and his Arkie Friends. Strange power base around Seth Ward.

I know about Mena, Nella and Ft. Smith aspects. Have been to Mena many times. Last time I was there the locals were still denying it, but winking.

I did political battle against the surrogates of the Sandanistas in the 1980's, while I live in NM (1972-1986). They would come up from Nicaragua trying to stir up the locals. (lot of mine union leftists there) The Maryknoll nunns were part of that, saw this up close and personal. Also saw the other side. It was much later that I discovered exactly what happened with the Contra Operation. Unfortunately most people have no clue who the players were, much less the stakes and the game.

24 posted on 12/15/2011 7:16:09 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: mkjessup

Retaliate?

If we get the Senate and hold the House, possibly the presidency, there will be “real retaliation”.

Nothing like this in the history of the U.S.

Traitors deserve swift punishment.

Dems yes, and the RINO Pubbies too.


25 posted on 12/15/2011 7:21:28 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

Doesn’t really make any difference ... not only don’t we have a Justice Dept., we have Eric “the bigot” and his lackeys running the show. We have federal judges is Washington that are just as corrupt as Eric the bigot and will not protect America from the Food Stamp President’s mob.


26 posted on 12/15/2011 7:40:50 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Texas Fossil

27 posted on 12/15/2011 7:49:52 PM PST by McBuff
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To: Travis McGee

“And 100s were not murdered at the Watergate”

Of course the head of the DOJ was not willing to keep hiding facts in the Watergate scandal. Holder will not resign and will only go after the whistleblowers here.


28 posted on 12/15/2011 8:25:17 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Texas Fossil

Agreed. Also add the FBI and DEA. I also agree about the quality of this article and the prominence of the newspaper. This may light some fires.


29 posted on 12/15/2011 9:38:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Joe Brower; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; ...

Just before dawn PING!


30 posted on 12/16/2011 2:03:10 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: McBuff

From the pic, he does not even bleed red.

Always thought he was an alien. hee hee hee


31 posted on 12/16/2011 5:47:12 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: DooDahhhh

That’s the way I see it, too. Even if we get a good President in ‘12 and get control of the Congress, I don’t think the case will be pursued; and, that’s a shame because this is the most criminally corrupt regime in our history, IMHO.


32 posted on 12/16/2011 10:32:32 AM PST by izzatzo ( Anybody but Obamney and Huntsman--Bachmann/???, 2012.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Are you shy about checking off on the editorial sidebar?


33 posted on 12/16/2011 12:37:20 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Texas Fossil

I remember Jim Wright, John Kerry, and Tom Harkin in photos with Daniel Ortega. Then Tom Foley appointed Ron Dellums to the intelligence committee in the House to piss off Reagan. Dellums assistant was Barbara Lee (a good friend of Nancy Pelosi). Lee was good friends with Ortega and Castro.


34 posted on 12/17/2011 12:37:02 PM PST by OrioleFan
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To: OrioleFan

Ahhh yes, memories.

I recall the photo, it is still running around somewhere. It is on FR now somewhere.

Tom Foley, Ron Dullums, and Barbara “Commmie” Lee. Now that is a lineup.

And yes Barbara was/is a friend of Ortega & Castro. Birds of a feather. And I remember Humberto Ortega, Ernesto Cardenal, Bayardo Arce and Tomás Borge. Bad old time, Bad old Commies.

I could tell war stores about that time. Some of it I did not fully understand then, but years later it all came out.

Have great admiration for Terry Reed. (”Compromised”) And great admiration of Col. Ollie North.


35 posted on 12/17/2011 3:27:31 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: OrioleFan

Here is the link to the photo:

http://cache.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/images/day6/01b.jpg

From this post on FR:

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1100821/posts


note- many places that the John Fn Kerry/Daniel Ortega photo was have since been scrubbed. Even the ketchup queen does not have enough bucks to make them all go in the rabbit hole.

Like the Hanoi Jane photo’s, they will last forever. As long as free men draw breath.


36 posted on 12/17/2011 3:35:39 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: yarddog
The difference is in Fast and Furious, the actual crime is much, much, more serious than the cover up, but it seems even the conservatives seem to be pushing the cover-up story as the big one.

The Republicans need to manufacture a "Caspar Weinberger" moment in June 2012, if they're serious about stopping the Obama/Holder regime.

-PJ

37 posted on 12/17/2011 4:20:22 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Texas Fossil
My first experience with the Grand Old Party was back then. I was living in Flower Mound, TX and called up the Republican Party in Denton and offered my services to assist getting Jim Wright out of office. They said someone would get back to me. After about a week I got a letter. It said, "Thank you for your offer to assist the Republican Party. Please send your contribution to
." I called them back up and said, "You so-and-sos are no better than the Democrats." Now, I'm Tea Party, and still vote Republican. You should see my chicken scratching when I get one of those RNC questionaires in the mail.

38 posted on 12/17/2011 8:38:02 PM PST by OrioleFan
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To: OrioleFan

Yep, I know. Large organizations are like that.

I was Republican County Chairman for a time in a County in NM. Back in the 1980’s. Thankless job, but someone has to do it.

Our County Chairman here in Haskell County, TX has tried several times to get me to accept it here. I have told him I cannot because of family obligations (is true). But I plan to call him this week and tell him I want to be a delegate again. We have work to be done within the Party that is important this time.


39 posted on 12/17/2011 8:48:46 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

He is black; He will Never be called to pay for this.


40 posted on 12/21/2011 12:01:14 AM PST by DooDahhhh (ma)
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