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Posted on 12/16/2011 10:03:54 AM PST by aimhigh
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>>There was no thinking, there was no thought process at all.
There shouldn’t be any thought process at all. Anyone with an hour of range time and a box of ammo downrange can instinctively grab and fire a snubbie revolver. But if you are pointing a revolver forward, I still say that it is nearly impossible to shoot your finger off. Perhaps you could take the tip off (just the tip, not even to the first knuckle), but he had to do something grossly stupid to take his finger off. There is more to that story, but its even more embarrassing than the one he’ll tell you.
I’m thinking that he shot his finger off after the shooting—perhaps during an attempt to decock the revolver without thinking? He may have finished shooting and the gun was cocked. He realized it when held the gun sideways and looked at it. Then, he holds it by the barrel to steady it while he lowers the hammer and *blam*. Finger gone.
Regardless, any gun seller who won’t sell one of the most popular handgun types of all time because he had a one-in-many-million accident is pretty dumb.
IF ?
If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass every time he jumped.
If is the biggest word in the English language.
Write your congressman and have him pass a law that the bad guy MUST not may but MUST stand in front of you when he's trying to kill you.
Have him call it “The criminal has to cooperate with you” law.
That ought to do it.
You don't have the slightest clue how ridiculous you sound do you.
WTF are you ranting about? I was talking about holding a gun and you go off on some weird tirade about passing laws. Are you saying that the guy who shot his finger off, was NOT pointing the gun away from himself? Perhaps that was the start of his problems. He should have learned Cooper’s Rules.
If you own a snubbie revolver, go pick it up, unload it, and figure out what would be required to hold the gun in a way that puts a finger in front of the barrel. That’s all I was saying. It would require such an unnatural grip that no one would do it. You said the guy is a gun seller, so handling firearms would be instinctive for him. I’ve been in a situation where I had to draw my gun, and it was an Airweight Bodyguard, and had no problem keeping both hands behind the muzzle.
But, there is one plausible scenario where he could have held the gun tight against his belly one-handed, while pushing the attacker back with the other hand. That’s a realistic and effective self-defense posture and does put you at risk for shooting your own hand and forearm. BUT, any handgun carries the same risk when using that move. 2” or 8”, you might shoot your finger off, but its worth the risk to keep the attacker back, literally at arm’s reach.
When someone is about to blow your brains out there's no such thing as IF.
He believed the same as you “if this happens”. If didn't happen and he blew his own finger off.
The snub has it's place, but that place is not in the hands of a novice.
That’s slightly more organized than my reloading area. Nice set-up.
The word “if” has a legitimate place when doing fact-finding. Especiallly when the person who was injured is not available. In your original post, you told people that a snubnose reolver is unsafe because you can blow your finger off. I said that there’s more to the story than what you are saying and then I tried to create some scenarios where it could happen.
But, you insist on keeping this on an emotional level, rather on than a rational one. So, Whatever! You type very well for a guy with nine fingers but please stop using those fingers to spread alarmist fiction about a type of handgun that has been tested and found adequate and safe for over a hundred years. I don’t care that you refuse to sell one to your customers, and I hope your customers are smart enough to go somewhere else to get the handgun they need.
One is a bit chewed up, literally (I guess thew little bastard got hungry), but all of it's still there.
People keep “advising” people that are looking for a first gun to get a snub nose.
The snub nose is not the gun for a novice.
>>People keep “advising” people that are looking for a first gun to get a snub nose.
>>The snub nose is not the gun for a novice.
I never advised that. I advised a k-frame revolver. Most k-frames have a 3” barrel as the shortest available. If asked, I would recommend a 4” as a first gun. I was only questioning your reason for not recommending a snubnose. The snubnose j-frame is hard to handle during recoil, with short sight radius, and a 5 round capacity. That’s why I wouldn’t recommend one for a novice. The “you’ll shoot yer finger off!” story is not a good reason—same as it wasn’t for your first BB gun.
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