Posted on 12/16/2011 10:16:49 AM PST by Mount Athos
The data "has to be well hidden. I’ve discussed this with the main funder (U.S. Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original station data.”
The emails have outraged climate-change skeptics who say they can't trust climate studies unless they see the raw data -- and how it has been adjusted.
"In every endeavor of science, making your work replicable by others is a basic tenet of proof,” Anthony Watts, a meteorologist and climate change blogger, told FoxNews.com. “If other scientists cannot replicate your work, it brings your work into question.”
"What’s missing," Watts said, "is a ... directive from DoE that they should withhold station data gathered under their grant. The email may be there, but ... still under lock and key.”
Chris Horner, a senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, wants that key. He recently filed Freedom of Information acts with the DoE, requesting the emails they exchanged with Jones.
"So far no administration department has bothered to respond, indicating they … believe the time bought with stonewalling might just get them off the hook for disclosure," Horner told FoxNews.com.
"Not with us, it won't," he said.
The Department of Energy has until December 29 before it must legally respond to Horner's request.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
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Who the hell do you think hired Al Gore and his boot lickin’ scientists??
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Obama’s Justice Department joins Britain’s ‘Climategate’ leaker manhunt
By:Christopher C. Horner | 12/15/11- Christopher C. Horner is an attorney in Washington, DC, pursuing several “climate” related freedom of information requests.
I have seen apparent proof that the United States Department of Justice (DOJ), Criminal Division, is working with United Kingdom police to pursue the leaker of the 2009 and 2011 “Climategate” emails.
I have learned that last week DOJ sent a search-and-seizure letter to the host of three climate-change “skeptic” blogs. Last night, UK police raided a blogger’s home and removed computers and equipment.
The leaked records derailed “cap-and-trade” legislation in the U.S. and, internationally, as well as talks for a successor to the Kyoto Protocol.
[snip] Continue reading here: http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/2011/12/obamas-justice-department-joins-britains-climategate-leaker-manhunt/2006206
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UK Telegraph
Climategate: Obama’s boot boys strike back
By James Delingpole December 15th, 2011
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100124397/climategate-obamas-boot-boys-strike-back/
“...Tallbloke was one of the first people contacted when mystery whistleblower FOIA 2011 leaked the Climategate 2.0 files onto the internet....
“....That last paragraph of Horner’s -[see Horner’s article above] - addresses a conundrum which has been puzzling quite a few of us, viz: why are all these public resources being wasted on the pursuit of somebody who, even if the police catch him, has no case whatsoever to answer. If a whistleblower leaks information in the public interest – as Climategate and Climategate 2.0 clearly are – then he is pretty much immune from prosecution. (Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998)
Sure if you listen to the spivs at the University of Easy Access, the sphincter-burstingly angry propagandists at comedy websites like RealClimate, or to lavishly paid palaeopiezometrists like the Bob Ward, then, yes, the Climategate and Climategate 2.0 emails were “stolen.” But no serious person really believes that. The “stolen” meme was just a shoddy ruse – first promoted by the Warmists’ amen corner the BBC – designed to distract attention from the only genuinely criminal acts of this whole affair: the flagrant and deliberate breach of FOI regulations by sundry Climategate “scientists”; the potentially fraudulent use of millions of pounds and dollars of public money for political ends.
Why this is the sledgehammer being used to crack a nut?
We can but feverishly speculate. My personal favourite theory so far – lent credence by several of the wise comments at Watts Up With That – is that it concerns all those encrypted emails that FOIA 2011 claimed to have in his possession when he unleashed Climategate 2.0. In other words, there may be more juicy stuff – much, much more juicy stuff – to come. It may also be that the names incriminated are not merely those of low-rent types like Phil Jones and Michael Mann, but senior politicians and businessmen with much more to lose if they’re ever found out.
So let’s hope they are, eh?
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UK police seize computers of skeptic blogger in England
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The original data is crap ,, how do you compare and make observations of hundredths of degrees when the technology has ranged from big mercury thermometers to modern instruments,, how accurate is the old data? To the degree? half? quarter? Has the survey station been encroached upon by construction or a change in greenery?
“Climategate Bombshell: Did U.S. Gov’t Help Hide Climate Data?”
A stupid idiotic question because they (the U.S. Socialist/communist government) were part of the crooked plot and still are.
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No. I did not read the article. I am not going to spend my time reading crap.
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1) You can MISTAKENLY draw incorrect conclusions from your facts- this is actually not so ‘bad’ at all, it is expected to happen some times, and is why we have ‘peer-review’.
2) you can PURPOSELY draw incorrect conclusions where facts do not support your desired outcome. This is where we start to get really bad, but others can still look at the initial data and find out the truth
but the worst of all...
3) you can purposely draw wrong conclusions and then DELETE the original data- that means you can never repeat your results. Knowledge is lost forever.
This should be CRIMINAL when done with other peoples money
Of course they were/are. Why else have they been frantically attempting to suppress the _proof_ of it?
It is merely a rhetorical question. DUH!
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Thanks for your comment.
Bump.
We will probably never find out.
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