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Paterno 'knew' about child abuse
Yahoo ^ | 12/16/11

Posted on 12/16/2011 9:00:22 PM PST by Libloather

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To: CW_Conservative

How the hell have you not received the ZOT over disgusting comments like that??? So the 10 year old boys were complicit in their anal raping?

Go to hell.


101 posted on 12/17/2011 4:57:53 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

There is a gulf of difference between the imperfect of enabling a serial child rapist and occasionally telling a white lie, or some other minor defect.


102 posted on 12/17/2011 6:23:50 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: rogator

You got me but that’s a hell of a margin.


103 posted on 12/17/2011 6:36:55 PM PST by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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The simple truth is that cowards without a strong moral compass will help cover up and thus assist the greatest evils. I'd recommend reading the whole article. So many people knew what was going on and could have - should have - done more, done something, told real cops, told the County Sheriff, told more cops, went to Sandusky's house and screamed at him, made sure a huge stink happened so that the fiend would not anally rape any more boys. But no, everyone tiptoed and whispered, and therefore allowed the homosexual pedophile rapist Sandusky to victimize more and more (who knows how many) boys.

104 posted on 12/17/2011 7:29:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Scoutmaster

He had a girlfriend too....Hard to say if that would have influenced any of his decisions if it wasn’t a homicide.

It’s been said that suicides run in families. I don’t agree that one suicide makes others in the same family more likely to happen. Depression runs in families but if one member takes their own life(as my brother did), the survivors know how devastating that act is for all involved...and will opt to not repeat, not matter how bad things are for them.


105 posted on 12/17/2011 8:35:21 PM PST by Mountain Mary ("My core is not up for grabs". El Rushbo 12/06/11)
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To: FamiliarFace
College football brings in a ton of money.

You are right. In this case, not just to Penn State University and the NCAA, but to what was once a sleep little town in the Nittany Valley. Each Penn State home game is estimated to bring in $57-59 million dollars into the local economy.

Any lengthy analysis of Joe Paterno's career at PSU shows that this was almost a Boise State situation. When Paterno first accepted the job of head coach, there wasn't much at all to Penn State. For years, it was a football program with a supplemental university. Now it's a world-class university BECAUSE of successful football and even professors who abhor athletics are on the record acknowledging that.

A world-class university, yet those who graduated from Penn State, who live within a 150-mile+ radius, or support Penn State don't worship at the altar of higher education, they worship at the altar of football and Joe Paterno. We saw that on television when students rioted after Paterno was fired. When a silent protestor against child abuse was struck, spat upon, cursed, doused with beer (by men and women, old and young) outside Beaver Stadium at Penn State's last home game of 2011. When alumni who stated publicly that they had not read the grand jury presentment began a defense fund for Jerry Sandusky. When apologists stated that Paterno had done 'what he was supposed to do' by notifying Curley and Schultz and then ignoring the anal rape (forgetting that Paterno also conveniently looked the other way repeatedly, such as when Sandusky brought an adolescent male date to pre-fame sleepovers and banquets after the 1998 investigation, and his forced early resignation effective after the season).

I've heard of beer goggles.

Money goggles, power goggles, and "I'm proud of my college's football program's success" googles affect judgement about ethics, too.

106 posted on 12/18/2011 4:17:38 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

Today’s crop of Penn State/Syracuse news stories.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/Liestoppers_meeting/topic/4572505/22/?x=50#new


107 posted on 12/18/2011 4:28:02 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: dfwgator

“Getting the death penalty turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to SMU, it has become a very good academic school.”

SMU was a very good academic school long before they got the death penalty.


108 posted on 12/18/2011 4:52:48 AM PST by crude77
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To: Scotswife
If they spent nights at Toftree’s and ate breakfasts with the team, it would seem inevitable that McQueary would see them.

I understand your logic, but perhaps I haven't laid out all the facts. Sandusky only attended the pre-game overnights at Toftrees when he was an active football coach at Penn State. He did not, to our knowledge, attend overnights at Toftrees when he was a retired faculty member/coach emeritus from 2000-2011. However, as a coach emeritus, he had an office in the special football building, and a parking space, and keys and access to all of the athletic facilities, including the special football facilities, 24/7. He had his keys to the football showers taken away in 2002 after (at least) the second incident of him raping a pre-teen boy in the football showers. But he retained his keys to other football and athletic facilities until November 6 of this year. He was able to continue to molest boys, but not at Toftrees, since 1999.

We specifically know Sandusky attending pre-game banquets and sleepovers at Toftrees with "Victim #4" during the 1998 and 1999 football seasons while Sandusky was the Defensive Coordinator for the Nittany Lions.

Sandusky announced his retirement in July 1999, effective at the end of the 1999 season. In May 1998, the investigation regarding Sandusky showering with boys was started by the Centre County District Attorney's (Ray Gricar) office, the University Park police, the Penn State University police, and Pennsylvania's child welfare. Although Gricar declined to indict (Sandusky didn't do anything sexual to Victim #6 or "B.K," who could not be found for the 2008 state investigation that led to the 2011 indictments), there was a report that took a "long time" to produce. Penn State AD Curley and Senior Vice President for Business and Finance Schultz were surprised at how large it was.

In May 1999, a year after the investigation of Sandusky began, the report must have been complete, because that's when Paterno told Sandusky that he wouldn't succeed Paterno. Until more details came out, Paterno apologists pointed to this action as proof that Paterno "did something" about Sandusky. But Sandusky's surprise announcement of early retirement wasn't effective until the end of the 1999 season. So he took Victim #4 with him to Toftree's sleepovers that entire season. And Paterno sat at the coaches' table with Sandusky and that boy the night before each home game. (I wonder what went through Paterno's mind when he made eye contact with Victim #4? Or Sandusky? I wonder what went through Victim #4's mine when he made eye contact with JoePa? Did Sandusky think "Wow, JoePa''s a peach of a guy, letting me retire instead of firing me . . . and letting me bring a boy to statutorily rape . . . I wonder if the veal's good tonight?") And Sandusky returned to him room and sexually molested the boy in the shower and bedroom of his room at Toftree's.

At the end of the year, Penn State played in the Alamo Bowl. Sandusky was allowed to bring Victim #4 with him to San Antonio as part of the Penn State contingent. There, he molested the boy. Sandusky's under investigation by the San Antonio police now. Again, this would be three years before McQueary saw Sandusky rape the boy in the football showers.

The Penn State football program dedicated the Alamo Bowl to Sandusky. When Penn State shut out Texas A&M 24-0 (the only bowl shutout in Paterno's career), Sandusky was the person doused with Gatorade, and Sandusky was carried off the field on the players' shoulders. He probably raped Victim #4 again that night.

I have this image of Sandusky boarding the plane to go to San Antonio. As he does, Paterno and the players present him with fourteen-year-old Victim #4, wrapped with a big red ribbon and a card that says "Enjoy Your Early Retirement." Jerry Sandusky wipes a tear from his eyes and says "Gee guys, I was only expecting a watch."

109 posted on 12/18/2011 5:04:30 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: crude77
SMU was a very good academic school long before they got the death penalty.

Concur and then some. Perhaps it wasn't Rice, but it was a mystery in the old Southwestern Conference how any of these football players managed to get into SMU. SMU was to the Southwestern Conference as Vanderbilt is to the Southeastern Conference.

110 posted on 12/18/2011 5:23:00 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Enchante

So glad to reconnect again, Enchante.


111 posted on 12/21/2011 11:52:17 PM PST by Twink
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