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1 posted on 12/17/2011 6:26:20 AM PST by Kaslin
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NWO experiment going terribly wrong


2 posted on 12/17/2011 6:30:06 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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The party is over. No more feel good from Germany and France. The socialist countries are having withdrawal symptoms.


3 posted on 12/17/2011 6:31:59 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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Default really is the best option for most of these countries. They won’t be able to borrow again if they default, but they should not be borrowing anyway.


4 posted on 12/17/2011 6:32:37 AM PST by Brilliant
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The socialists have run out of other people’s money


5 posted on 12/17/2011 6:34:21 AM PST by bobjam
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The socialists have run out of other people’s money


6 posted on 12/17/2011 6:34:30 AM PST by bobjam
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Don't make a move or the Portuguese gets it.


7 posted on 12/17/2011 6:37:14 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Kaslin; blam; dennisw; TigerLikesRooster; AndyJackson

When did “Mish” Shedlock become “Mike?”

Going up-market, and leaving his old persona behind in the blog-slums?


10 posted on 12/17/2011 6:40:33 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Attacking one’s benefactors only works when one’s benefactors are obligated in some manner to continue. This sort of rhetoric will only result in their being cut loose and left to fend for themselves. Upon just whom will clueless socialists in Portugal unleash their economic nuclear bomb then? Austerity is coming and will not be an option. I expect they’ll foul their own nests and burn things, then scream, rip their hair out and rend their clothing, while blaming anyone but themselves. They’d enslave others to wipe their collective butts if they could, all the while claiming the moral high ground but denigrating morals at every turn. Destructive, nihilist babies, the lot of them.


12 posted on 12/17/2011 6:46:13 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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The Big Government Socialists of Portugal do not want to be ruled by the Big Government Socialists of Germany.

Who will win? Why the Big Government Socialists, of course.


15 posted on 12/17/2011 6:47:46 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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The Portuguese, how many divisions do they have?


17 posted on 12/17/2011 6:49:41 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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In Portugal, socialists talk openly of default as a weapon.

Devemo-lo tudo para nossos amigos Cloward e Piven.

21 posted on 12/17/2011 6:54:00 AM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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Big 3 French bank balance sheets are 3 times the size of France’s GDP. Leveraged 30 to 1.

That would be like 3 big American banks have $45 trillion balance sheets.

Those French banks are French toast.

Unbelievable.

Portugal, Italy, Greece, everybody, deal. It ain’t goin’ away.

No mo’ money.


25 posted on 12/17/2011 7:12:52 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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The rest of the EU has its own economic atomic bomb: declare that any payment made towards new debt to any EU bank will be confiscated and applied to the defaulted debt. And the rest of EU will not cooperate in curbing tax evasion by Portuguese citizens.

Immediately, Portugal will only be able to spend what they take in. They will have to immediately choose between paying welfare and pensions, and even if they terminate welfare the pensions will take a haircut.

The result of terminating welfare will be a tsunami of underclass people going into the rest of Europe and hastening the collapse of the remaining welfare states.

26 posted on 12/17/2011 7:15:08 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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Should You Worry About Europe's Back Door Bank Run?
27 posted on 12/17/2011 7:16:53 AM PST by blam
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Socialists are truly economically illiterate. That move by Portugal would primarily nuke THEIR OWN economy!


28 posted on 12/17/2011 7:21:37 AM PST by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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"We have an atomic bomb that we can use in the face of the Germans and the French: this atomic bomb is simply that we won't pay," said Pedro Nuno Santos, vice-president of the Socialist Party in the parliament.

This is the true face of socialism, infantilism.
A few centuries ago, if a country did not pay their debts, they could expect war ships to show up on their shores to make collections.
It worked great, incompetent governments were absorbed by more efficient governments.

31 posted on 12/17/2011 7:28:28 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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When Portugal considers default as a weapon I recall the famous line in “Blazing Saddles”....

“Anyone move, I shoot the N____r!”

(”I think he means it.”)


39 posted on 12/17/2011 10:38:56 AM PST by donmeaker (e is trancendental)
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Theft and deception are implicit to Marxist/socialist ideology...


41 posted on 12/17/2011 12:13:00 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (No good deed...)
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There is a liberal in my office...half Portugese. He has stated numerous times that ‘government should take care of its people’.

I laugh.

In his mind, government is like the Scrooge McDuck...a paternal figure doling out support to the masses. He has no concept of where Scrooge McDuck gets his wealth (or that his vault is beyond empty right now).

He is particularly stubborn on healthcare...after all, it ‘works’ in Portugal. What Portugal has is a dual system, where the wealthy can get healthcare on their own, outside of the state run system. So, its better than the Canadian model, but still not sustainable.

I will send him this article. He will not be able to understand that allegedly free healthcare is helping to contract the Portugese economy.....now that I think about it, he has expressed concern that the western model of expanding economies is not ‘sustainable’... so the article will be very trivial to him.


42 posted on 12/17/2011 2:17:28 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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Time to cut up the kids’ credit cards.


45 posted on 12/17/2011 10:28:41 PM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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