Posted on 12/17/2011 12:14:45 PM PST by ckilmer
My one problem with Newt is his idea of allowing people who have lived 25 years in the country to remain and to set that decision in the hands of local officials.
Why?
Consider.
That stand almost immediately got praise from both clinton and schumer.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/nov/27/picket-schumer-and-bill-clinton-plant-kisses-death/
Soon after, the LA Times ran a story that said 60% of illegals have been in the USA for 10 years or more. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/12/60-percent-illegal-immigrants-report.html
Why would partisan democrats praise newt’s idea. Why would the LA Times run the story that 60% of illegals have been in the country have been in the country for 10 years or more.
Because they would see clearly how Newt's plan could be gamed--just like Ronald Reagan 1986 amnesty was gamed.
In a conservative county most of the illegals would be pushed out because the 25 year rule would be strictly adhered to -- but in a county where most people speak spanish and 40% of the population is illegal — nobody will be deported. The LA Times suggests that they might draw the line at 10 years. But that's not the way it would work in practice. In high illegal counties soon enough people who have just stepped over the border would be allowed through. There won’t be anything the feds or the state can do because they locals will be the ultimate arbiter. What’s more these counties will become gateway counties into the country from other countries and they will attract illegals forced out of other parts of the country. Once legalized they could move on.
The result will be that florida and texas especially will rapidly shift over to the democratic column. That’s the big prize the democrats are counting on that will shut the republicans out of presidential politics and the direction of the country.
That’s why the most partisan democrats Schumer and Clinton had high praise for Newt’s idea.
Newt’s plan isn’t Bachmann’s plan and if it were, I would be against it as well. Palin supported amnesty. She was wrong. Let’s discuss the substance of these plans and not the author. Amnesty is wrong and will destroy this country with the stroke of a pen. It doesn’t work.
You might be right but that’s not the way it would work in practice.
I think making the acts sequential is the right way to go. But if at the end of the day — local governments decide who stays and who goes—then everyone knows that the way the law will be interpreted will change from state to state and county to county. Some counties will wind up letting everyone in. They will become gateway counties into the USA for people coming from abroad and collection counties for illegals pushed out of other counties inside the USA.
Oops, not good. Agree with me and you may get the ZOThammer. (At least that's what various posters are suggesting.)
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Heh, heh, heh. Again, I happen 2 agree. Best wishes for the coming year my FRiend.
I will not vote for any candidate who promotes amnesty.
2/3 of the applicants in 1986 used fraudulent documents. If local boards were in charge of who stays and who goes, this country will be destroyed, as previously stated by other posters. If the federal government is in charge of who stays and goes, this country will be destroyed. The only thing I can say about Mitt is at least he lies straight to my face. These plans will never pass through congress.
There is not a single candidate who has the kahonas to say the word DEPORT, why, because they now have to pander to the children of illegal aliens that are voting and to heck with the 75% of Americans who want an end to illegal immigration. The people who live in gated communities, making these laws, never have to deal with the real population.
Breaking the law has consequences. Amnesty should not depend on how long you were able to break the law and your proximity to the border. All of these people who have been here for 25 years broke the law in 1986. The largest illegal migration came in 1986. They waited patiently for the next amnesty.
Where the heck did Megyn Kelly get the idea that 66% of Americans want a pathway to citizenship, what the heck is she smoking.
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