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Financial Panic Sweeps Europe As The Head Of The IMF Warns Of A “1930s Depression”
The American Dream ^ | 12-17-2011

Posted on 12/17/2011 3:23:42 PM PST by blam

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To: blam

If the US wants to remain a great power it cannot have an EU. Look how Europe treated the US as they tried to unite. They criticize our insufficient programs to help the poor, or not spend enough on education, environment and etc. They would not hesitate to unite with other nations to mandate costly policies on US in order to cut our super power status down in the name of internationalism. Most important the EU infiltrated our MSM and colleges with pro socialist viewpoints to make the US less efficient and its power encumber by EU type costs/policies in order to bring us down to their level. Reason, the EU politicians know they cannot reduce the burdensome socialist programs that hobble their economic growth, so in order to chop the US down, they use their socialist agents of influence in the US to get big gov to adopt burdensome EU type policies to bring us down to their level of inefficiency. Let the EU die. That will only leave the US to face China, Russia, India and Brazil and not have a treacherous EU covering our back.


41 posted on 12/17/2011 4:48:48 PM PST by Fee
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To: editor-surveyor
Sounds like you largely agree on the options.

China? probably not.

Iran/Venezuela they might try. AdamidaCrazy and Chubby Hugo are egomaniacs.

Iran & Calif, yep. If Obozo succeeds in destroying the U.S. Military first.

42 posted on 12/17/2011 4:51:36 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Iron Munro

They can forget selling the AGW Scam. That is out in the open and cannot be re-canned.

The OAS has been exposed as a pack of Commies. The UN revealed themselves at the latest Conference on GloBull Warming.

The U.S. public will not accept any of that nonsense.

I don’t even think they will eat the poison pill of ObozoCare.

Martial Law? Don’t think they have enough goons to do it here. Possibly in some metro area, but not TX.

There are other options. I fear being forced into a 3rd party to defend us. Not Good. Very Bad. Results of that could lead to a civil war. Re-election of Obozo by 3rd party and Fraud (his normal MO) would lead to rebellion.

The path out is to take total control of the Republican Party and right the ship. Big Order.


43 posted on 12/17/2011 4:58:37 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Fee

Germany is one of the most anti- American countries in Europe.
They keep meeting regarding the Monetary crisis repeatedly. However, they seem only to be concerned about the color of the band-aid to place on the wound, rather than treating the problem.


44 posted on 12/17/2011 5:02:15 PM PST by americanbychoice3
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To: blam
Psalm 2
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.
45 posted on 12/17/2011 5:09:48 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Theophilus

Handel set that psalm to music in Act 3 of “The Messiah”. I’ll be doing an analysis of that work in next Friday’s FReeper Canteen with examples from Hogwood’s 1982 live recording from Westminster Abbey. Stay tuned.


46 posted on 12/17/2011 5:12:06 PM PST by Publius
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To: Cold Heart

“So, I don’t have to panic till 2012. That’s way off next year.”

I had to laugh at your post made about this serious situation.

My guess is you are prepared to handle it. So am I.


47 posted on 12/17/2011 5:12:30 PM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Hussein in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: Cold Heart

Bump


48 posted on 12/17/2011 5:15:14 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Texas Fossil

My dad, a chemical & electrical engineer, claimed to have coined that phrase. Since he is now deceased I can’t ask him what year he coined it. It does seem like a phrase that could be co-coined (is that a word). However, he did testify in a lot of investigative engineering & legal cases and before legislatures as an expert witness. Everything from electronics, explosions & building failures. Some pretty big cases all over the US. came in contact with a lot of engineers who received the benifit of his humor.

Dad was shown one of the first transistors when the CIA was trying to recruit him. I didn’t think to ask him if that was before or after Roswell:)
No, Im not Fred


49 posted on 12/17/2011 5:27:04 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart

My friend “Fred” was a senior research physicist at Johns Hopkins. When I met him he had made some money in Real Estate and kind of dropped out back in NM.

Very bright guy.

It is possible he met your father at some point in time.

I met Fred in the early to mid 1980’s. He was a Ham friend.


50 posted on 12/17/2011 5:33:39 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: central_va
No. If anything it will eventuate in a hybrid fascism/crony capitalism. Marx is dead and always has been.
51 posted on 12/17/2011 5:34:20 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: central_va
No. If anything it will eventuate in a hybrid fascism/crony capitalism. Marx is dead and always has been.
52 posted on 12/17/2011 5:34:35 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: central_va
No. If anything it will eventuate in a hybrid fascism/crony capitalism. Marx is dead and always has been.
53 posted on 12/17/2011 5:34:46 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: blam

So what is this jackass selling - MREs or hideouts for cupcake survivalists?


54 posted on 12/17/2011 5:45:28 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: whitedog57

From your link:
“... the bank/sovereign debt death spiral. It is a SOLVENCY problem in Europe, not a liquidity problem...”

Pretty much sums things up. And there is no escape from the black hole of debt, you get sucked in and delivered through a wormhole to a depression like never experienced before.


55 posted on 12/17/2011 5:49:29 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: americanbychoice3

“Germany is one of the most anti- American countries in Europe.”

You are full of crap.

Angela Merkel, the Chancellor of Germany, gave an impassioned speech thanking Reagan and the United States for its role in bringing down the Berlin Wall and giving freedom to Eastern Europeans. She embraced human rights in that speech and praised inalienable rights for the individual. She also extolled free markets and condemned communism.

What kind of assinine agenda are you pushing?


56 posted on 12/17/2011 6:10:58 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: blam

All those 30 day vacations per year, social welfare programs and free protection under the US defensive umbrella are coming home to roost, y’all.


57 posted on 12/17/2011 6:12:26 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: sergeantdave

“The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet”. ...
Winston Churchill

Do you think Attila’s wife called him `Hun’? Lighten up Francis.


58 posted on 12/17/2011 6:18:20 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: Brilliant
Sounds like they are trying to talk themselves into a depression.

Oddly, I have heard in a couple of interviews lately of hedge fund managers and such who have exposure to Europe that Europeans aren't panicking at all yet, and think Americans are hyping the situation too much. They seem to think this will all blow over soon and that the US is in much worse shape.

60 posted on 12/17/2011 7:15:33 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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