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Charge: Kent teacher offered student,16, $50 for sex
KOMO News Seattle PI ^ | Dec 14, 2011 | LEVI PULKKINEN

Posted on 12/18/2011 1:53:58 PM PST by Baynative

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To: MrEdd

—or did you mean that at Verga?


61 posted on 12/18/2011 8:02:26 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The latter.


62 posted on 12/18/2011 8:20:24 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: boop
Yes. I read the story in our local paper. On PAID administrative leave. So he gets a couple of extra months of holiday time, then a slap on the wrist, and back to 60K/ yr. for 8 months of work

We live in the area also. Actually in 2010 Ernest Ammons had been working for the district for 6.5 years. He made $49,017 in Salary and his “benefits” were valued at an additional $17,520, this does not include any extra compensation that he may have received.

Your estimate was pretty close. Teachers in the Kent School district have 11.5 years in the district on average, meaning that most of them make considerably more than Mr. Ammons.

http://wwwb.thenewstribune.com/databases/school_pay/index.php?names=Ammons&schools=&districts=&sort=&job_title=

63 posted on 12/19/2011 12:14:26 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Lancey Howard
No. I was just kidding. Actually, every last pervert and pedophile in the government schools gets immediately nabbed by the coppers.

What a well thought out and ratinal response with out resorting to the leftist emotional irrational tactics. /SARC

They watch the government schools like hawks.

I would hope that the parents care enough about thier own progency to watch for signs of problems. This would include difficulty with homework, grades and life in general.

64 posted on 12/19/2011 2:11:12 AM PST by verga (We get what we tolerate and increase that which we reward)
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To: MrEdd
Who would that be? well me for one and about 80% of the rest of us that actually care about childrens education.
65 posted on 12/19/2011 2:12:48 AM PST by verga (We get what we tolerate and increase that which we reward)
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To: MrEdd
Off your meds.

Thank you for the personal attack, according Free Republic "rules" I will take the automatic win.

50 hours isn’t a very long work week (go talk to a farmer, or a machinist, or even a fast food manager) and private sector jobs outside of banking have nowhere near the holidays government workers get, let alone summers off.

I Know what machinists and engineers make. That is how I paid my way through school with out benefit of government loans. I worked full time and went to school almost full time and carried a 3.96 QPA for two Bachelors and 2 Masters degrees.

Nor will you see many private sector jobs with retirement benefits even in the same solar system with their government counterparts. I have a book written in the twenties about how to lie with statistics. The first, third, and sixth rules are all “Always use averages; never, ever, use the mean.” Do enlighten us all. What do you make including benefits, and what is the mean income for an adult in your state.

I earn about 45,000 per year, (For the past 5 years, our salaries hafve been frozen for that long. Not complaining simply stating a fact.) I get Health insurance, and have to pay for my wifes. This includes a $10o-pay for prescriptuions.I also get a 10K life insurance plan. I have to pay my own dental. Myretirement is 60% of my final average salary after 20 years. I will be able to collect that when I am 67.

As an Engineer I would have been able to retire at age 57 with a heck of a lot more including full medical dental, and 500K life insurance. I would also have been making almost double. Oh and according to this website: http://www.payscale.com/research/US/State=Virginia/Salary I am at athe low end of the salary range, but I already knew that.And as for that myth of Summers offI still put in 20-25 hours per week, that is how I am able to to getr my weekly hours DOWN to around 50/ week

66 posted on 12/19/2011 2:31:14 AM PST by verga (We get what we tolerate and increase that which we reward)
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To: verga

Do you are asserting that you have been unfairly accused of sexual misconduct with a child?

How did this come about? And by who?


67 posted on 12/19/2011 2:34:26 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd
Do you are asserting that you have been unfairly accused of sexual misconduct with a child? How did this come about? And by who?

I have never been accused of any sort of misconduct, sexual or otherwise. But I am tired of quite a few people on this forum lumping ALL teachers in with the whack jobs. Are all police officers corrupt? Do all Priests commit pedophilia? Certainly not but teachers are maligned quite a bit on this forum

68 posted on 12/19/2011 2:44:07 AM PST by verga (We get what we tolerate and increase that which we reward)
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To: MrEdd
Do enlighten us all. What do you make including benefits, and what is the mean income for an adult in your state.

And Seriously, if you truly believe that we teachers have it so good; Come on in, Get a teaching certificate and Masters degree within 5 years and join the ranks. We do need more conservatives voices.

69 posted on 12/19/2011 2:47:37 AM PST by verga (We get what we tolerate and increase that which we reward)
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To: verga

The only thing you win is a prize for arrogance and egotism.

Here in Texas, the median income was 23,325 as of 2009.
You bounced in here and tried to make a thread about the damage to children by adults who sexually desire them all about you.

The world does not revolve around you, and at some point you will need to grow up and accept that.

These kids deserve to be protected.


70 posted on 12/19/2011 2:53:04 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: verga

To not be lumped in, you have to work within your profession to see to it that teachers self police.

Hy your attitude and defensiveness, and preemptive attack against those concerned with the child on this thread, that seems to be lightyears away from any approach you personally would make.


71 posted on 12/19/2011 3:12:17 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd
The only thing you win is a prize for arrogance and egotism. Here in Texas, the median income was 23,325 as of 2009. You bounced in here and tried to make a thread about the damage to children by adults who sexually desire them all about you. The world does not revolve around you, and at some point you will need to grow up and accept that. These kids deserve to be protected.

Yeah re-read the thread again it was YOU that asked about my income. Nice try with the Red Herring.

That is two logical fallacies you have resorted to. First the Personal attack (Ad hom) then the red herring.

You are right the children do need to be protected, but NOT EVERY teacher needs to be vilified and lumped in with the bad apples.

72 posted on 12/19/2011 4:47:36 AM PST by verga (We get what we tolerate and increase that which we reward)
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To: MrEdd
Hy your attitude and defensiveness, and preemptive attack against those concerned with the child on this thread, that seems to be lightyears away from any approach you personally would make.

Again nice try, Please cite where I went on the attack, and as we all (Should) know defending is not the same as beeing defensive. It was YOU and YOU alone that went on the attack.

73 posted on 12/19/2011 4:52:24 AM PST by verga (We get what we tolerate and increase that which we reward)
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To: verga
You were whining about people perceiving government teachers as making more than the private sector.

I pointed out that there is a way to tell.

You do make more than the private sector. You are in the top twenty five percent, as it happens, and all it takes to see that is to pull up the tax records. You are at almost twice the median.

I am looking to see where you commented on the damage to the kid from the sexual pursuit of the adult teacher in authority over her. It isn't there. There isn't even a hint of anything like that.

If you find yourself lumped in with sexual predators, it is exactly because of that revelation of your character which shows in your attitude in this conversation. Not because you are also a teacher.

You exhibit zero concern for the welfare of students over your own wealth and prestige.

74 posted on 12/19/2011 5:00:09 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd
I am looking to see where you commented on the damage to the kid from the sexual pursuit of the adult teacher in authority over her. It isn't there. There isn't even a hint of anything like that.

Really take a look at Post 52, dang those pesky things called facts.

If you find yourself lumped in with sexual predators, it is exactly because of that revelation of your character which shows in your attitude in this conversation. Not because you are also a teacher. You exhibit zero concern for the welfare of students over your own wealth and prestige.

again witht he personal attacks, Nice try at diverting the topic. YOU and YOU alone made it about me. You aqsked about my salary and benefists and I showed YOU a site showing I am below average. Try showing factual citations and we can talk . If you consdieer this conversation over.

75 posted on 12/19/2011 5:23:10 AM PST by verga (We get what we tolerate and increase that which we reward)
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76 posted on 12/19/2011 7:27:52 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Baynative

I bet he has a small one.

skeeve.


77 posted on 12/24/2011 3:54:57 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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