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Sides form for oil tax battle in Alaska Senate
Anchorage Daily News ^ | December 18th, 2011 | SEAN COCKERHAM

Posted on 12/18/2011 2:38:37 PM PST by thackney

The Alaska Senate is about to enter a bruising debate over whether to slash how much Alaska taxes oil companies, with Senate President Gary Stevens calling the governor's tax cut plan a giveaway that could cost the state billions with little in return.

"We have been asking the administration (of Gov. Sean Parnell) for months to give us some proof this will do Alaska some good," Stevens said last week.

It's a debate likely to dominate the 90-day session of the Alaska Legislature that begins in Juneau on Jan. 17. The state House has already passed the governor's bill so the pressure from the state chamber of commerce and other groups who want to lower the tax is bearing on the members of the Senate who so far have stonewalled Parnell.

Parnell calls his bill to lower oil taxes the top economic priority of his administration and said he will keep pressing.

"We need a game-changer to turn declining production into increasing production," Parnell said in a recent speech. "And not just any old oil tax change will do; the changes have got to be meaningful, tweaks are not enough to make us competitive."

Proponents of cutting the oil tax are touting recent statements of some state senators about changing the system. But changes under discussion in the Senate are much more modest than what Parnell has been talking about.

"Many senators have concerns about the bill. Real and important questions. If it does make it out of the Senate it will only be with changes, major changes I suspect," Stevens said last week to the policy group Commonwealth North.

(Excerpt) Read more at adn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; economy; energy; northslope; oil; palin; socialism; tax
state budget, released Thursday along with state revenue and oil production forecasts, reflect some disturbing trends: less revenue, higher costs and trouble ahead. The budget proposal shows the kinds of forces driving the state operating budget ever upward, like increases in Medicaid, state employee contracts and a new prison.

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On the revenue side, we see continued declines in oil production in a state where oil revenues pay for 90 percent of the budget. There is a good reason to believe the state's production forecast is actually a tad optimistic: It includes new oil projects still being evaluated. If some of the new oil doesn't show up, as has often happened, the decline steepens.

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The results of the Dec. 7 state oil lease sale weren't particularly encouraging. The sale wasn't a bust but it wasn't wildly successful, either. Basically, companies already on the Slope bid to add acreage, although there were two new companies, both small firms.

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1 posted on 12/18/2011 2:38:54 PM PST by thackney
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To: thackney
Does it look like the crooks are about to steal money from the people again?
2 posted on 12/18/2011 3:04:24 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: PALIN SMITH
Does it look like the crooks are about to steal money from the people again?

You are misinformed. The decline in the production is a result of the cartel on mineral rights. Alaska has effectively developed a cartel on mineral in which the mineral right prices are kept artificially high under the guise that the resources are owned by the people. This idea is nothing more than a cartel. Auction or sell the mineral rights and production will increase obviously subject to the price of oil. I strongly favor Alaskans to gain more control over their land. The jackboot of the federal government is an intrusion on private property and states rights. Still, the ridiculous federal policy is no reason to setup a cartel on mineral rights.
3 posted on 12/18/2011 3:11:28 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: businessprofessor
"Does it look like the crooks are about to steal money from the people again? "

>>>You are misinformed<<<

Actually I'm uninformed.

I was asking a question, not stating an opinion or a fact.

Thanks for the answer.

I was curious as to whether Sarah Palin's money sharing plan was becoming unraveled.

4 posted on 12/18/2011 3:27:11 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: businessprofessor
The jackboot of the federal government is an intrusion on private property and states rights.

Yes. The so-called "oil curse" has bypassed the United States because Americans have traditionally owned the mineral rights to their own property. Alaska flirts with disaster under the current system.

5 posted on 12/18/2011 3:32:01 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: thackney
I saw where production numbers have been dropping 6% a year for over the last 10 years or so. Lot's of places for oil companies to invest today. Drilling in Alaska is kind of like going to Las Vagas and every bet you make you're starting out 15% behind.
6 posted on 12/18/2011 3:40:39 PM PST by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: Recon Dad
I believe the reason why so many Repub legislators are skeptical is historically the oil companies have bought & paid for so many of our politicals up here who have in turn lowered taxes again and again for big oil many times over the years.

I guess we should just pay the oil companies for getting that filthy oil out of the ground up here; but they probably wouldn't even be happy with that either.

Just business for the oil industry, but resources are state wealth up here that funds everything so we don't have all the taxes you all do in lower 48. Most Alaskans feel that if we don't get the going price for oil, let her in the ground. Alaska could go 10-15 years without any tax revenue if they had to, but actually oil industry always seems to want what we have in the end after crying poverty every other year and demanding tax reductions. No joke, been watching the game since I got here 20 years back. This ain't something new.

No offense Thackney, we just differ on this picture.

7 posted on 12/18/2011 4:03:08 PM PST by Eska
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To: thackney

After what the Alaskan people have allowed to happen by re-electing the ousted republican senate member using democrate votes I say EFEM!

Crap, I can’t remember her GD name!!!


8 posted on 12/18/2011 4:10:28 PM PST by Randy Larsen (I'm backing Newt!)
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To: BfloGuy

Isn’t 98 or 99% of land in Alaska owned by either the feds, the state or tribal entities? That leaves 1-2% in-holdings scattered from hell to breakfast for the private sector.


9 posted on 12/18/2011 4:12:57 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: thackney
I like Palin but tend to disagree with some of her policy choices in regards to oil, taxes, public education and social programs.

TRANSCRIPT: Sarah Palin's RNC Speech
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2074322/posts

My mom and dad both worked at the elementary school in our small town. And among the many things I owe them is a simple lesson that I’ve learned, that this is America, and every woman can walk through every door of opportunity...

So I signed up for the PTA because I wanted to make my kids’ public education even better...

This was the spirit that brought me to the governor’s office when I took on the old politics as usual in Juneau, when I stood up to the special interests, and the lobbyists, and the Big Oil companies, and the good-old boys...

When oil and gas prices went up dramatically and filled up the state treasury, I sent a large share of that revenue back where it belonged: directly to the people of Alaska. And despite fierce opposition from oil company lobbyists, who kind of liked things the way that they were, we broke their monopoly on power and resources. As governor, I insisted on competition and basic fairness to end their control of our state and return it to the people.


...which provided extra, "early funding for [public] education" (Alaska State).

Governor Palin Signs Domestic Violence Legislation


10 posted on 12/18/2011 4:16:53 PM PST by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Eska
guess we should just pay the oil companies for getting that filthy oil out of the ground up here;

That filthy oil is the fuel of the modern world we have today and for the foreseeable future.

Alaska has it (oil) and you're right you can ask anything you want for it. Just remember oil companies are just like any business interprise they require a profit to offset the massive investments that is required in the oil business. There isn't another industry in the world with the overhead of the oil industry.

11 posted on 12/18/2011 4:24:56 PM PST by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: Recon Dad
No joke, been watching big oil cry poverty, demand lower taxes through the elected officials whose pockets they fill for many years, almost 20. Same old game, nothing new here. Many years back I was open to what they said; though all the conservatives that said keep taxes where they are now, already have been lowered quite a few times over last 15 years. After you have lived in Alaska awhile, you begin to see that your friends are speaking the truth. I have nothing against oil industry, but don't buy their line of speak anymore, have watched it for a good many years.

Norway funds govt with oil taxes too and close to same size as Alaska. They have 400 billion in their perm fund, we have 40 billion. Reason is oil companies pay a much higher rate of tax in Norway. In Alaska, they realized long ago our politicians could be bought awful cheap and they could get a much better tax deal, just business as usual to oil companies. Why do you think so many of our Republicans are dead against oil industry taxes being reduced? They watched it done for many years and it never benefits Alaska or Alaskans. Not kidding either.

12 posted on 12/18/2011 5:44:32 PM PST by Eska
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To: familyop

“I like Palin but tend to disagree with some of her policy choices...”

Watch it pal, we’re not allowed to say bad things about Palin. So repeat after me: “Palin did a great service to the country by screwing oil companies that wanted to explore there”. Repeat again.

Thank you...you can stay on this site (LOL).


13 posted on 12/18/2011 5:51:50 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: Eska
Alaska still has a lot of oil in the ground and off your coast but it's expensive oil. You have a pipeline that's close to obsolete and in two years will probably need either major repairs or be shut down for lack of oil. If it shuts down all bets are off as to maintaining your present way of life.
You have environmentalists that have clogged the courts and held up exploration to the point where oil companies are looking to friendlier pastures. Forget the corruption issue you don't kill the industry because of corruption you clean it up and move on, oil is too important to Alaska.
What I do know is business and the reasoning behind the way a business invests its capital and 100% of the time they will invest where the return is the greatest. Alaska right now long term is not looking like a place to put their dollars there are too many disincentives. If I had to make a presentation to the board of an oil company on where to make a bet on drilling our next well it wouldn't be in Alaska as things are today.
14 posted on 12/19/2011 4:21:39 AM PST by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: PALIN SMITH
I was curious as to whether Sarah Palin's money sharing plan was becoming unraveled.

The overly large tax scheme known as ACES that she and others put in place has been questioned as slowing down investment by the current governor and others.

The "money sharing" portion, the money that goes into the Permanent Fund and then a portion of the earnings goes to the residents, that money is strickly from the Royalties, sales of the mineral right production to the oil companies. That portion was unchanged during the Palin's Administration.

Although many talked as if Sarah Palin increased that to give more money to the people, it was completely unchaged during her time. Her adminstration changes only changed the tax structure and 100% of those additional funds went to the state government.

15 posted on 12/19/2011 5:27:38 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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