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Calif teen sentenced for killing gay student
Associated Press ^ | Dec. 19, 2011 | GREG RISLING

Posted on 12/19/2011 11:09:43 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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To: greene66

The jury was pretty easy on the young gunman, they could not decide between first and second degree murder. The young gunman plead guilty to second degree murder, in order to avoid a retrial and risk spending the rest of his life in prison. Maybe he was partially to blame too.

Would the guys in your old high school have done anything to straighten out a kid who brings a gun to school one day and shoots a classmate twice in the back of the head? Or, is that type of aggressive behavior someone else’s concern?


41 posted on 12/19/2011 12:55:42 PM PST by Kaisersrsic
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To: Kaisersrsic

“Or, is that type of aggressive behavior someone else’s concern?”

gee... I don’t know. Hey... how about those Detroit Lions?


42 posted on 12/19/2011 12:58:57 PM PST by Mashood
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To: Kaisersrsic

It would have been inconceivable for any kid to even bring a loaded pistol to class to begin with. Never heard of it happening my entire school life.

But I did carry some brass-knuckles to school with me for a few weeks. A couple of big bullies were bothering me, and I intended to be ready for them if they tried anything more.


43 posted on 12/19/2011 1:04:17 PM PST by greene66
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To: trumandogz

We are up to two suicides in our school district in recent weeks. Children DO handle things with a gun, both of ours did. It happens. Our suicides were two boys 17 and 14. One was over the rejection from a young girl. Our area also had a 16 yo female student end her life,too.

I see this situation in the same light. Ending your own life through suicide or killing someone else is pretty darn close. If you can kill yourself, you can kill others. If you are gay, you do NOT have the right to make sexual advances in a school setting. The school had to have seen something to alarm them, they chose PC, then blamed another child for the ensuing results. He committed murder, yes, there is a price to pay. BUT not as an adult, as a child. I agree with the jurors. Had he been an adult, totally another story.


44 posted on 12/19/2011 1:49:18 PM PST by tioga ( Holder lost the guns, Corzine lost the money, Obama lost the jobs....a dem trifecta.)
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To: tioga

“If you are gay, you do NOT have the right to make sexual advances in a school setting.”

However, you believe that straight boys should have the right to make sexual advances on girls and straight girls should have the right to make sexual advances on boys in a school setting?


45 posted on 12/19/2011 2:00:30 PM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his own Internet domain name, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: trumandogz
However, you believe that straight boys should have the right to make sexual advances on girls and straight girls should have the right to make sexual advances on boys in a school setting?

You really are a sick person. Seek help.

46 posted on 12/19/2011 2:07:01 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

The school setting in not the place for students to be making sexual advances and it does not matter the gender or sexual orientation of either of the two.

And while hundreds of American high school students over our history have found more appropriate ways to deal with unwelcome sexual advances, Brandon elected to commit murder.

And Brandon got off quite easy and out walking to streets before he is 40.


47 posted on 12/19/2011 2:15:05 PM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his own Internet domain name, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Nope—not when you consider his age and the depravity of the harassment that he faced and the school did nothing to protect him from being exposed to such sick, vile ideas.

That bullying had obvious mitigating circumstances which when considering the age and immaturity of the boy being harassed, in crimes that involved straight people or gang members-have even had their records expunged at age 21 and been sentenced to no more than 7 years.


48 posted on 12/19/2011 2:16:17 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: trumandogz

LOL good catch. NO ONE should be making sexual advances....especially at the age of 14.


49 posted on 12/19/2011 2:16:43 PM PST by tioga ( Holder lost the guns, Corzine lost the money, Obama lost the jobs....a dem trifecta.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Just who do you turn to when the authorities go out of their way support the queers and vilify normalcy? Most kids don't want to turn to their parents when in awkward circumstances. There is a natural tendancy to solve your own problems. Where does a straight kid go for support in a school system? Given this school environment, I suspect he would have been told to suck it up.

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This is what happens when the parents, schools and other institutions in our society expect teens and others to behave in a way that is against human nature. This is truly a tragedy.

50 posted on 12/19/2011 2:17:48 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trumandogz

EASY? You are nuts. That is too long to spend in jail for something he did as a boy. Try him as the child that he was when he committed the act.

I cannot fathom that you think that to get out at 40 is going easy.


51 posted on 12/19/2011 2:21:01 PM PST by tioga ( Holder lost the guns, Corzine lost the money, Obama lost the jobs....a dem trifecta.)
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To: trumandogz
The school setting in not the place for students to be making sexual advances and it does not matter the gender or sexual orientation of either of the two.

Are you gay?

52 posted on 12/19/2011 2:24:36 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: tioga

Wow, I am shocked. We constantly complain that perpetrators are portrayed as victims by leftists, but when it comes to our causes, we do the same? I don’t think so.

Murder is murder is murder is murder...


53 posted on 12/19/2011 2:26:35 PM PST by Chandalier (You say Obama, I say O-blame-o!)
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To: trumandogz

It is MUCH more of an INSULT to a normal male to be pursued by a deviant—who wants to use his body in such a vile, depraved way. It is a deep rejection of human dignity—of the design by God of man.

There is no way an interest in a woman should be anything of an insult because that is the nature of man and an understanding of God’s teleological design. Respect and dignity though is necessary in relationships. There is no dignity EVER in homosexual relationships. It is deviant and nihilism. The very look of a homosexual at a male in a sexual way is disturbing, disordered, and sick. They were probably sexually abused as children.

The very act of male on male harassment for sex would have got men killed prior to PC laws to protect deviant behavior. No one was put in jail for murdering men who tried to rape them and they were severely beat up-—which actually controlled the deviant behavior and put it in the closet where the degrading acts belong. Sodomy is extremely evil and deviant.


54 posted on 12/19/2011 2:26:59 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie; trumandogz
Worth repeating:

There is no dignity EVER in homosexual relationships. It is deviant and nihilism. The very look of a homosexual at a male in a sexual way is disturbing, disordered, and sick.

55 posted on 12/19/2011 2:32:09 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: tioga
LOL good catch. NO ONE should be making sexual advances....especially at the age of 14.

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While school is an unacceptable place for sexual advances, there is a big difference between a 14 year old male receiving unwanted, aggressive, reoccurring sexual attention from a male homosexual and receiving the same attention from a heterosexual female.

No matter how long some in our society insist that each should be considered equal, they are not.

56 posted on 12/19/2011 2:34:00 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Chandalier

First off, I’m not in anyway condoning the shooting of the homosexual, but there is a very dark and dirty story that is not being told here. One that lets the school and its policies off the hook so to speak.

The boy was 14, was being sexually harassed by a homosexual classmate who had been given carte blanche to pursue and harass the perp. Had “cornered” the boy in a bathroom and caused him great distress.

I don’t know about you, but our teenage son has enough trouble dealing with much more mundane issues, let alone an aggressive homosexual who has the protection of school administrators and teachers who were actively engaged in endorsing his abherrent behavior. Not all teenage boys are equal in that regard.

The perp went to the school “authorities” who told him tough. He would have to “tolerate” the unwanted homosexual advances of the victim.

How many 14 year old boys are capable of dealing with; a. the rejection of support from those placed in a position of “authority” over the enforcement of the rules, b. the public humiliation of being the object of “affection” of the victim?

I’m not condoning his acts, but in this case, this boy was also victimized, but by a culture of political correctness at all costs. The school was essentially forcing this boy to accept his “fate”. To be the object of “affection” and unwanted sexual advances without any support from an institution that is supposed to ensure a harassment free learning environment.

The love that shall not speak its name sure is making a lot of noise.

IMO, there are two victims here, only one still lives.


57 posted on 12/19/2011 2:46:00 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: trisham

No 14 yos should be having sex. The morals in this country are deplorable. I don’t believe gays or lesbians are acting in God’s favor, despite the laws in this country heading in that direction. Oddly enough, I see Newt’s willingness to call out our judges as a good thing for us. Why should judges legislate sexuality? I have no problem with Newt spouting off in the area. I may not agree with every comment, but I do agree we are heading into Hell in a handbasket and liberal courts are a big cause.


58 posted on 12/19/2011 2:46:33 PM PST by tioga ( Holder lost the guns, Corzine lost the money, Obama lost the jobs....a dem trifecta.)
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To: tioga; SZonian

I think that SZonian makes some good points here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2822423/posts?page=57#57


59 posted on 12/19/2011 2:51:32 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: little jeremiah

Ping to this thread.


60 posted on 12/19/2011 2:52:40 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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