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Calif teen sentenced for killing gay student
Associated Press ^ | Dec. 19, 2011 | GREG RISLING

Posted on 12/19/2011 11:09:43 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

VENTURA, Calif. (AP) -- A Southern California teenager has been sentenced to 21 years in state prison for killing a gay student during a computer lab class three years ago.

Brandon McInerney didn't speak on Monday but his attorney said his client is deeply remorseful for the murder of 15-year-old Larry King. The victim's family said they couldn't forgive their son's killer.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; homosexualagenda; larryking; oxnard; publicschools; schoolshooting; ventura
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1 posted on 12/19/2011 11:09:45 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Would the punishment be any different if he WASN’T gay?


2 posted on 12/19/2011 11:14:14 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Seven years is more like the sentence he should have received. The 21 years is because he killed a “protected class of citizen”. A black gang banger, killing just for a thrill, gets less time. This guy, very young, confused, and P.O’d at unwanted advances, gets hammered.


3 posted on 12/19/2011 11:15:33 AM PST by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics. ProgressiveRepublicansInConservativeCostume)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The reporting in some of these articles, is woefully inadequate.

Here they don’t mention the age of the perp, and that’s an important detail.

As I understand it, if a teenager is convicted of a crime like this, they serve time until they turn 21, and are then released, their records sealed.

Was this kid tried as an adult. Is there a probation report that specifies this kid will not be released early? If that is so, how did this case differ from other cases where kids are released early?

Including some information on this would seem a prerequisite to even reporting on this development.


4 posted on 12/19/2011 11:15:55 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

21 years? Even John Hinckley was out of prison on supervised visits in less time

Talk about a “protected class!”


5 posted on 12/19/2011 11:17:04 AM PST by PGR88 (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: unixfox

Would the punishment be any different if he WASN’T gay?

Well, at least it wouldn’t prob have made the media.


6 posted on 12/19/2011 11:17:30 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Free ThinkerNY

From the article, “McInerney, then 14, had reached an emotional breaking point after King made repeated, unwanted sexual advances toward him and other boys, defense lawyers said.”

If the victim of bullying and harassment suicides, the bully is the perp and the bully’s target is the victim.

But if the target of the bully, the target of intolerable harassment, lashes out, the roles are reversed. The bully’s victim becomes the perp.

And in this case the bully, the harasser, was operating under the protection of the state and school, who protected and allowed certain behaviors.

I do not think it is right to shoot someone, but I would cut some slack in this case of extended sexual harassment.


7 posted on 12/19/2011 11:19:07 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A school counselor created the situation by encouraging King's flamboyance, even giving him feminine clothing to wear at school.

She wanted her own private Matthew Shepard, and she got she.

She should be in jail, too.

8 posted on 12/19/2011 11:19:28 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

???


9 posted on 12/19/2011 11:21:06 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Murder is murder.


10 posted on 12/19/2011 11:22:13 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Beowulf9

Or FR


11 posted on 12/19/2011 11:23:34 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Gay” or not (and who gives a crap?), this was a horrific event that must have left most of the students with stress and recurring nightmares - a form of PTSD.


12 posted on 12/19/2011 11:28:15 AM PST by montag813
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Brandon mcinerny was a violent punk and a sociopath waiting to happen. It’s a good thing he is locked up for a long time before he kills more people. He is just like those Colombine punks. He shot this boy execution style in the back of the head in front of other kids. Good riddance.


13 posted on 12/19/2011 11:29:17 AM PST by snowstorm12
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To: DBrow

They accept “gay harassment”-—and why they repealed DADT. They want sodomy to be normal and encouraged. This case is to normalize gay sex in high schools.

It is part of Marx’s agenda—egalitarianism—no difference between male and females—they are interchangeable—the family and biology have to be eliminated for a true utopia.....where all kids are encouraged to be sexually active. The Brave New World keeps being foisted on us through the courts.

All about promoting perceptions—and Right and Wrong in an upside down world. Marxism is a Big Lie. You are now getting the LAW to FORCE the Worldview that “homosexuality is good” to eliminate the Christian paradigm—the only one which gives freedom a chance in societies where all people have dignity and worth. God should be our Standard of Right and Wrong-—NOT BARNEY FRANK’s STANDARDS. The court deliberately kicked out God’s standards and inserted “special homosexual rights to assault and batter a young person in our “schools”.

This court is unconstitutional. God needs to be the highest authority—Supra Positive Law is the basis of our jurisprudence, not Barney Frank’s urges.


14 posted on 12/19/2011 11:30:40 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Dear God. This whole thing is a tragedy. The school holds some responsibility and so does the victim. How does a 14 yo boy handle sexual advances in school, in front of others? He should not have been tried as an adult, he was just a boy dealing with some serious issues. He was a victim as well as the dead boy.


15 posted on 12/19/2011 11:34:17 AM PST by tioga ( Holder lost the guns, Corzine lost the money, Obama lost the jobs....a dem trifecta.)
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To: runninglips

Not sure how you can suggest that killing a “protected class of citizen” led to this resuls. In a premeditated act, this guy walked into a schoolroom and shot another student in the back of the head, twice. At trial, the jury hung because they could not decide betwen a conviction of First or Second degree murder. The procecuters allowed him to plead guilty to Second degree murder. The Plea deal requied that the sentence be the harshest provided by law for voluntary manslaughter (11 years), plus the legally mandated 10 year kicker for use of a gun.

Maybe a 14 year old perpetrator should not be tried as an adult, but, it seems like a serious error in judgment to champion the cause of this murderer.


16 posted on 12/19/2011 11:37:27 AM PST by Kaisersrsic
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To: Kaisersrsic

I think killing a protected class resulted in the trial as adult. Trial as a minor might have resulted in a manslaughter charge, like you see when a woman kills someone who is abusing her.

Not a justifiable homicide, but maybe a homicide that the court would recognize as a response to intolerable pressure.

It’s informative sometimes to flip things. What if the teen homosexual, skirt and heels and all, killed a kid who was giving the young homosexual intolerable teasing and harassment?


17 posted on 12/19/2011 11:43:55 AM PST by DBrow
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To: snowstorm12

Bull. From the article...

“McInerney, then 14, had reached an emotional breaking point after King made repeated, unwanted sexual advances toward him and other boys,”

Fourteen! The kid was 14. With another kid hitting on him wearing “inappropriate for school” wear. He snapped and that’s it.

I’m not saying that murder is right at any time but for heavens sake don’t make McInerney into some kind of monster. Because if this was my 14-year-old daughter and a 15-year-old boy in leathers, chains and a g-string started hitting on her (just as inappropriate), that boy would find out what kind of hurt my former Marine husband can inflict.

If it had been a girl that shot a guy, she would be tried as a junvie and been out in four years.


18 posted on 12/19/2011 11:44:58 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; wagglebee; little jeremiah
McInerney, then 14, had reached an emotional breaking point after King made repeated, unwanted sexual advances toward him and other boys, defense lawyers said. In the weeks leading up to the shooting, school administrators allowed King to wear heels and makeup because federal law provides the right of students to express their sexual orientation.

But King's parents can never forgive McInerney.

Maybe had they taught the little poofter to keep his pants zipped, he'd still be alive today.

19 posted on 12/19/2011 11:48:57 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: runninglips

Seven years is more like the sentence he should have received.

Bull crap. What happened to life in prison. Sheesh this guy killed someone and I don’t care who it is. He will now meet many guys who are going to do more than just block a door. He is in DEEP trouble.


20 posted on 12/19/2011 11:49:39 AM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This case reminds me of the Jenny Jones murder years ago, when she confronted a teen with his “admirer”, who was gay, with great fanfare. The teen was deeply embarrassed and ashamed and murdered the admirer. This Brandon kid was only 14, and clearly did not think like an adult. It is absurd to punish him like one, and not take into account the mitigating circumstances of repeated homosexual advances.


21 posted on 12/19/2011 11:52:39 AM PST by montag813
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To: savagesusie

“God should be our Standard of Right and Wrong-—NOT BARNEY FRANK’s STANDARDS.”

Exactly.

In Barney Frank’s liberal standards, murderers will only be sentenced to 20 of so years and be released from prison even sooner.

God’s standards are an Eye for an Eye and under that, Brandon McInerney, if the State of California, were to enact true justice would have sentenced Brandon McInerney to death for his premeditated cold blooded murder of Larry King.


22 posted on 12/19/2011 11:53:01 AM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his own Internet domain name, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: DBrow

While I do think we need to work on straight kids’ tolerance of gay kids, we really need to sensitize gay kids to the danger of taunting straight kids. If a kid really is “homophobic,” let’s look at the word PHOBIC. It doesn’t mean hatred, it means fear. If someone is mortally afraid of spiders, you don’t yell at them for being a spider-hater and then toss a tarantula on them. I have seen straight kids who literally shudder if a gay kid comes into their personal space. For some, it really IS a phobic reaction. We have to teach both sides to stay out of each other’s space.


23 posted on 12/19/2011 11:55:13 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Kaisersrsic

I am not a champion of this kid, but how long did the “doctor” get in the murder of Michael Jackson? How long would he have gotten if he was white? Different justice for those with money, or those of protected, or perps on protected classes, is not American.


24 posted on 12/19/2011 11:56:21 AM PST by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics. ProgressiveRepublicansInConservativeCostume)
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To: runninglips
I am not a champion of this kid, but how long did the “doctor” get in the murder of Michael Jackson?

He was not charged with, or convicted of, murder. He was convicted of involuntary manslaughter.

25 posted on 12/19/2011 11:58:23 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: runninglips
I am not a champion of this kid, but how long did the “doctor” get in the murder of Michael Jackson?

He was not charged with, or convicted of, murder. He was convicted of involuntary manslaughter.

26 posted on 12/19/2011 11:58:27 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: savagesusie
This court is unconstitutional.

I'm sorry, I can't find the constitutional right to murder gay people in my copy of the Constitution. Is it in one of those penumbras?

27 posted on 12/19/2011 12:00:50 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I know, the prosecutor treated him differently because of his race, his education, and the fact that he had money to fight. I want people punished, but since they won’t use the death penalty, which is what both of these people deserved, we have to fairly sentence people. I hate that justice is not blind, and has “its eyes” wide open, and looks at things that should not matter. The only thing that matters is the crime resulted in a death. For a doctor, he should be up for first degree murder, and executed. For the kid, he should have gotten the same. Without proper execution of justice, there are too many questions. The reason for ponderous legal legislation is, to create work for liars...I mean Lawyers to “work the system”. NOT a way to get to equal justice under the law.


28 posted on 12/19/2011 12:03:22 PM PST by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics. ProgressiveRepublicansInConservativeCostume)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A Southern California teenager has been sentenced to 21 years in state prison for killing a gay student...

How many years if the victim had been straight?

29 posted on 12/19/2011 12:05:40 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Kaisersrsic
Maybe a 14 year old perpetrator should not be tried as an adult, but, it seems like a serious error in judgment to champion the cause of this murderer.

Just who do you turn to when the authorities go out of their way support the queers and vilify normalcy? Most kids don't want to turn to their parents when in awkward circumstances. There is a natural tendancy to solve your own problems. Where does a straight kid go for support in a school system? Given this school environment, I suspect he would have been told to suck it up.

30 posted on 12/19/2011 12:06:07 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: snowstorm12

“Brandon mcinerny was a violent punk and a sociopath waiting to happen. It’s a good thing he is locked up for a long time before he kills more people. He is just like those Colombine punks. He shot this boy execution style in the back of the head in front of other kids. Good riddance.”

In a way it makes me sad as America drifts even further into liberalism, this thread illustrates how even the most conservative among us are adopting the leftist view on crime of sentencing cold blooded murderers to soft prison terms so that they can be “Rehabilitated.”

If the Colombine punks were alive and in prison, these so called “conservatives” would be calling for their early release.


31 posted on 12/19/2011 12:09:10 PM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his own Internet domain name, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If the kid had a few relatives in the Mafia there wouldn’t have been a body. Fugitaboutit.


32 posted on 12/19/2011 12:09:25 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Just Law—is not UNEQUAL law-—that is the unconstitutional aspect.

There should be NO “special rights” for homosexuals. There should be no “thought crimes” punished....that is unconstitutional.

You punish acts—equally in this country. Or we used to when we were based on Constitutional Law and not John Austin’s and Barney Franks ideas of what is Just Law. We have a standard for our legal system and jurisprudence.

We go by God’s Standards. Killing a “gay” is no worse than killing a “straight” person and the idea of “thought” crimes is never constitutional.


33 posted on 12/19/2011 12:13:06 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie
We go by God’s Standards. Killing a “gay” is no worse than killing a “straight” person and the idea of “thought” crimes is never constitutional.

The defendant was not prosecuted for any thought crimes or hate crimes. He got the regular sentence for voluntary manslaughter.

34 posted on 12/19/2011 12:18:58 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: netmilsmom

“If it had been a girl that shot a guy, she would be tried as a junvie and been out in four years.”

BAM. Blue ribbon at the truth fair.


35 posted on 12/19/2011 12:19:24 PM PST by clbiel (Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Vilify normalcy? Awkward circumstances? Natural tendancies? IT WAS TWO BULLETS IN THE BACK OF ANOTHER STUDENTS HEAD, IN A CLASSROOM. This perpetrator was not normal and premeditated, execution-style murder is not natural. The awkwardness here is created by excuses being offered for murder.
36 posted on 12/19/2011 12:20:46 PM PST by Kaisersrsic
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To: tioga

“How does a 14 yo boy handle sexual advances in school, in front of others?”

I’m not sure, but what I do know that many if not most 14-18 year old girls in high school somehow figure out how to handle sexual advances from classmates and they do not resort to walking into a classroom and murdering the guy who made the sexual advances.


37 posted on 12/19/2011 12:23:16 PM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his own Internet domain name, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The school probably is more to blame than anything, for encouraging this kind of aggressive faggotry. When I was in school, this never would have occurred. The guys would have gotten together and beat this sick creep to a bloody pulp, and that would have been a quick end to it. Just like a gal would give a hearty slap in the face to some lewd guy. Had I been on the jury, I’d have been pretty easy on the young gunman.


38 posted on 12/19/2011 12:37:27 PM PST by greene66
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

“Given this school environment, I suspect he would have been told to suck it up.”

And over the next 21 years in prison, he will also be told to suck it up.


39 posted on 12/19/2011 12:46:36 PM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his own Internet domain name, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: greene66

The jury was pretty easy on the young gunman, they could not decide between first and second degree murder. The young gunman plead guilty to second degree murder, in order to avoid a retrial and risk spending the rest of his life in prison. Maybe he was partially to blame too.

Would the guys in your old high school have done anything to straighten out a kid who brings a gun to school one day and shoots a classmate twice in the back of the head? Or, is that type of aggressive behavior someone else’s concern?


40 posted on 12/19/2011 12:55:34 PM PST by Kaisersrsic
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To: greene66

The jury was pretty easy on the young gunman, they could not decide between first and second degree murder. The young gunman plead guilty to second degree murder, in order to avoid a retrial and risk spending the rest of his life in prison. Maybe he was partially to blame too.

Would the guys in your old high school have done anything to straighten out a kid who brings a gun to school one day and shoots a classmate twice in the back of the head? Or, is that type of aggressive behavior someone else’s concern?


41 posted on 12/19/2011 12:55:42 PM PST by Kaisersrsic
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To: Kaisersrsic

“Or, is that type of aggressive behavior someone else’s concern?”

gee... I don’t know. Hey... how about those Detroit Lions?


42 posted on 12/19/2011 12:58:57 PM PST by Mashood
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To: Kaisersrsic

It would have been inconceivable for any kid to even bring a loaded pistol to class to begin with. Never heard of it happening my entire school life.

But I did carry some brass-knuckles to school with me for a few weeks. A couple of big bullies were bothering me, and I intended to be ready for them if they tried anything more.


43 posted on 12/19/2011 1:04:17 PM PST by greene66
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To: trumandogz

We are up to two suicides in our school district in recent weeks. Children DO handle things with a gun, both of ours did. It happens. Our suicides were two boys 17 and 14. One was over the rejection from a young girl. Our area also had a 16 yo female student end her life,too.

I see this situation in the same light. Ending your own life through suicide or killing someone else is pretty darn close. If you can kill yourself, you can kill others. If you are gay, you do NOT have the right to make sexual advances in a school setting. The school had to have seen something to alarm them, they chose PC, then blamed another child for the ensuing results. He committed murder, yes, there is a price to pay. BUT not as an adult, as a child. I agree with the jurors. Had he been an adult, totally another story.


44 posted on 12/19/2011 1:49:18 PM PST by tioga ( Holder lost the guns, Corzine lost the money, Obama lost the jobs....a dem trifecta.)
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To: tioga

“If you are gay, you do NOT have the right to make sexual advances in a school setting.”

However, you believe that straight boys should have the right to make sexual advances on girls and straight girls should have the right to make sexual advances on boys in a school setting?


45 posted on 12/19/2011 2:00:30 PM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his own Internet domain name, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: trumandogz
However, you believe that straight boys should have the right to make sexual advances on girls and straight girls should have the right to make sexual advances on boys in a school setting?

You really are a sick person. Seek help.

46 posted on 12/19/2011 2:07:01 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

The school setting in not the place for students to be making sexual advances and it does not matter the gender or sexual orientation of either of the two.

And while hundreds of American high school students over our history have found more appropriate ways to deal with unwelcome sexual advances, Brandon elected to commit murder.

And Brandon got off quite easy and out walking to streets before he is 40.


47 posted on 12/19/2011 2:15:05 PM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his own Internet domain name, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Nope—not when you consider his age and the depravity of the harassment that he faced and the school did nothing to protect him from being exposed to such sick, vile ideas.

That bullying had obvious mitigating circumstances which when considering the age and immaturity of the boy being harassed, in crimes that involved straight people or gang members-have even had their records expunged at age 21 and been sentenced to no more than 7 years.


48 posted on 12/19/2011 2:16:17 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: trumandogz

LOL good catch. NO ONE should be making sexual advances....especially at the age of 14.


49 posted on 12/19/2011 2:16:43 PM PST by tioga ( Holder lost the guns, Corzine lost the money, Obama lost the jobs....a dem trifecta.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Just who do you turn to when the authorities go out of their way support the queers and vilify normalcy? Most kids don't want to turn to their parents when in awkward circumstances. There is a natural tendancy to solve your own problems. Where does a straight kid go for support in a school system? Given this school environment, I suspect he would have been told to suck it up.

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This is what happens when the parents, schools and other institutions in our society expect teens and others to behave in a way that is against human nature. This is truly a tragedy.

50 posted on 12/19/2011 2:17:48 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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