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President Obama's Hawaii Christmas vacation dilemma
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Posted on 12/21/2011 4:16:54 AM PST by Sub-Driver

President Obama's Hawaii Christmas vacation dilemma By Amie Parnes and Jeremy Herb - 12/21/11 05:10 AM ET

President Obama faces a most difficult decision with the payroll tax extension up in the air, and it isn't whether to compromise with Republicans.

The toughest call for the president this holiday season may be whether to join his family for Christmas in Hawaii or stay in lonely Washington.

The White House won't say whether the president is heading west for the holidays—or even if he’s making an abbreviated appearance.

Jay Carney, the White House press secretary, said Tuesday that Obama “intends to stay and work with Congress to ensure that Americans don’t have their taxes go up.”

Even if there’s no ideal time for a presidential vacation, this one comes at a particularly inopportune time. For weeks, Obama has insisted that lawmakers stay in town to pass the tax extension. Otherwise, as he said earlier this month, “we can all spend Christmas here together.”

Now, with the payroll tax extension compromise unsettled, and members of Congress already back at home, does Obama up and leave, too? Or will the president be forced to spend the holidays at an empty White House with the Yule Log on TV listening to Elvis Presley’s “Blue Christmas?”

“If he stays, he could be seen as the only adult in the room,” said Susan MacManus, a professor of political science at the University of South Florida. “If he leaves, it could hurt him.”

The question of whether Obama would stay in Washington was posed to Carney a couple of times during Tuesday’s briefing at the White House.

“Are you saying there’s a scenario that’s possible, on December 25th, where the president wakes up and ‘It’s a Wonderful Life’ is on, and he puts on his Christmas sweater in the White House, and he’s all alone and his family is in Hawaii?” Ed Henry, the senior White House correspondent for Fox News wondered.

“I’m reluctant to say where he’s going to be on which day because I don’t want to make this about him,” Carney responded after jokingly asking Henry if he’s available to spend time with the president on Christmas. “It is a very fluid situation. It’s hard to know what tomorrow is going to look like, what the next day is going to look like, as this saga continues.”

It’s unclear how the payroll tax extension fight will play out and whether or not a compromise will be reached before the Christmas weekend.

But if the measure isn’t passed and Obama does go to Hawaii, the imagery of the president in paradise amid the payroll tax extension debate could give Republicans campaign fodder well into the election year, observers say.

“Without any question it will be used against him,” said Julian Zelizer, a professor of history and public affairs at Princeton University. “You can see the Republican ads now about why he’s in Hawaii.”

It's not as if a Hawaiian Christmas is some exotic vacation for the president. Hawaii is where the president grew up, and he's visited the state each year for the holidays since his election.

First lady Michelle Obama and their two daughters are already in Hawaii, and staying in Washington would deprive the president of Christmas with his family.

Yet just as when Obama traveled to Martha’s Vineyard this summer in the wake of the nation’s first credit downgrade and a sagging economy, it will be hard for him to escape criticism if he goes to Honolulu without a tax deal.

Some Republicans sound a bit sympathetic, even as they are signal their readiness to pounce.

“He has every right to celebrate the holidays with his family,” said Sean Spicer, the communications director for the Republican National Committee.

But if negotiators are in Washington working on a compromise, “I think that speaks volumes about the lack of leadership. He can’t chide Congress about going on vacation and then go on vacation,” Spicer said.

Tony Fratto, who served as a White House spokesman to George W. Bush, a president frequently criticized by the left for his vacation time, agreed.

“He’s been the one challenging [lawmakers], it’s the standard he’s set for Washington officials so he should stay here and make sure he’s helpful,” Fratto said.

At the same time, Democrats say Obama should make the trip regardless.

Democratic consultant Karen Finney, a columnist for The Hill, said having Obama remain in Washington “symbolically” is not the answer.

“Americans are very clear on who’s raising their taxes,” Finney said. “And it isn’t the president.”

Mike McCurry, who served as White House press secretary under Bill Clinton, said Obama “should go on vacation and Hawaii is perfect.”

“It’s dumb not to give our presidents some down time and he has a long slog ahead next year,” McCurry said. “It also gives his hard-working staff a break and they need it more than he does. I think most Americans would prefer that Obama and Congress take a long vacation wherever and then come back to do some real work.”


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1 posted on 12/21/2011 4:16:58 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Boo freaking hoo ! ! !


2 posted on 12/21/2011 4:20:06 AM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: Sub-Driver
If he doesn't go will it save us the $4M price tag?
Can MOO SHELL spend it without ZERO?
Inquiring minds need to know. . . . .
3 posted on 12/21/2011 4:22:04 AM PST by DeaconRed (Hound Dog Howling . . . Bull Frog Croaking -- Everything is broken--Thanks to ZERO)
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To: Sub-Driver
Meanwhile, how much the vacation will cost US taxpayers....

With More Vacation Days and Separate Travel, Price of Obama’s Annual Hawaiian Holiday Rises

.....around $4,000,000.

4 posted on 12/21/2011 4:23:11 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: airborne

I read where the taxpayers will be stuck for about $4 million so this grifter family can go on vacation to Hawaii. He and his grifter family and their hanger-on entourage should all be in Leavenworth for their “vacay.”


5 posted on 12/21/2011 4:24:12 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Sub-Driver
Obama's Hawaii vacation home:

9 million to buy, $2,500-3,500 to rent (per day)...

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"Located on fabulous Castle Point at Kailua Beach. This 5 bedroom, 5 1/2 bath private estate is located at the end of a private road. An enclosed yard protected on one side by the ocean and the other by the beach add to the magical seclusion of this home. This estate is an original historic Castle family home that was completely remodeled in 2005 with everything from the basics to quality furnishings, gourmet kitchen, granite, and more. The uniquely wonderful appeal of this estate is everything is done in an open air design for the ultimate island paradise. Weight Room with TV/DVD, Wireless Internet"

http://www.hawaiisbestrentals.com/detail.lasso?SKU=685

More photos here:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1222081obama2.html

And here:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1222081obama3.html

Also see:
http://www.exposeobama.com/tag/hawaii-vacation/

6 posted on 12/21/2011 4:31:40 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Sub-Driver
barry brought this on himself, by pontificating how he planned to stay in Washington until the tax bill was passed and so should Congress.

No one forced his family to jet 5,000 miles away to spend millions of dollars playing on a beach and leaving him at home. Being waited on hand and foot at Camp David would be a dream Christmas for all the rest of us. Lots of military families experience Christmas without Dad (or Mom) at home.

I hope Boehner sends over a fruitcake.

7 posted on 12/21/2011 4:31:54 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: silverleaf

Boehner IS the fruitcake!


8 posted on 12/21/2011 4:34:08 AM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“The toughest call for the president this holiday season may be whether to join his family for Christmas in Hawaii or stay in lonely Washington.”

Toughest call? Tell it to our brave military personnel...they would answer: “I don’t have a ‘call’. I follow orders.”
Remember our troops this Christmas, try to put this man-child out of your minds, and have a wonderful Christmas, FRiends.


9 posted on 12/21/2011 4:34:32 AM PST by Matt Hatter
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To: mewzilla

I would like to see an analysis of the Obumbo’s
pleasure travels.
The first that I remember was the megabucks trip to India.
Then there are frequent trips to Martha’s Vineyard, Hawaii, and God only knows where else.

Has any other president come even close to what the Commie clown and his family does?


10 posted on 12/21/2011 4:35:11 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Sub-Driver

And yet Ronald Reagan always spent Christmas in D C so more of the secret service could spend the holiday with their families. I am so tired of hearing the imagined sacrifices the media wants to pretend this man child makes.


11 posted on 12/21/2011 4:35:23 AM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh, that Shelly’s high living could be the last nail in his presidential coffin.


12 posted on 12/21/2011 4:37:23 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Sub-Driver

I like what Krauthamer suggested and that is that the Rep. House should just change the dates on the Senate Bill to Expire on Dec 31 2012. Pass that and send it back to the Senate and then leave town.


13 posted on 12/21/2011 4:45:37 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Sub-Driver; All

I keep wondering why the House of Crooks doesn’t defund these vacations and other useless fun trips which are billed to the taxpayers. Can someone educate me please?

Thank you.


14 posted on 12/21/2011 4:45:48 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) (Y)
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To: Sub-Driver

He’s signed stuff electronically before. If he goes to Hawaii, he should be chained to a desk so he can work the phones constantly.


15 posted on 12/21/2011 4:45:56 AM PST by OrioleFan
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To: AlexW
Since you asked, this is from a few months back.....

Expensive massages, top shelf vodka and five-star hotels: First Lady accused of spending $10m in

16 posted on 12/21/2011 4:47:04 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: Matt Hatter

“The toughest call for the president this holiday season may be whether to join his family for Christmas in Hawaii or stay in lonely Washington.”

Oh, the humanity .....

Maybe barry could serve dinner at a DC soup kichen, then helicopter on over to Bethesda for Christmas dinner with the wounded warriors


17 posted on 12/21/2011 4:49:44 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: Sub-Driver
First lady Michelle Obama and their two daughters are already in Hawaii, and staying in Washington would deprive the president of Christmas with his family.

This would be a problem if the Muslim-in-Chief actually celebrated the birth of the Savior. He bows to Mecca, kowtows to despots, and probably wipes his ass with his left hand like the rest of those animals.

*spit*

He can burn in self-righteous Hell this Christmas for all I care.

18 posted on 12/21/2011 4:52:03 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think I remember Hussein saying they didn’t celebrate Christmas-exchange gifts.


19 posted on 12/21/2011 4:54:07 AM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: mewzilla

“Since you asked, this is from a few months back.”
_____________________

Yes, no doubt that Mooochell orchestrates many of these lavish trips.
After all, she is entitled to the reparations. /S


20 posted on 12/21/2011 4:56:33 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Sub-Driver

Couldn’t Michelle and the girls go back to the White House for Christmas? Everybody’s a winner: the Obama family and secret service staff families are united for the holiday!


21 posted on 12/21/2011 5:00:55 AM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: airborne

Hoisted on his own Petard.

I think he will leave soon, Too cold and nasty for Golf in Washington this time of year.


22 posted on 12/21/2011 5:01:11 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Sub-Driver

Couldn’t Michelle and the girls go back to the White House for Christmas? Everybody’s a winner: the Obama family and secret service staff families are united for the holiday!


23 posted on 12/21/2011 5:02:50 AM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: Sub-Driver
“If he stays, he could be seen as the only adult in the room,”

No, the janitor holds that title.....

24 posted on 12/21/2011 5:04:40 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Be good, Santa is coming)
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To: Sub-Driver

So the tradition of going to Hawaii only started when taxpayers had to fund it. Otherwise they kept their butts in windy old Chicago over the holidays.


25 posted on 12/21/2011 5:05:51 AM PST by I_be_tc
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To: Sub-Driver

What Obama could learn from Americans by staying in the DC area for Christmas:

1) Dumpster diving lessons from the homeless

2) Working Americans actually enjoy shopping at Walmart

3) The poor who can’t afford a jacuzzi, fart in the bathtub to create the same effect

4) fresh deer meat from a Christmas morning hunt tastes awfully good.

5) Every family has a crazy cousin Eddie who just appears out of nowhere on Christmas eve

6) Those of us who get cash Christmas Bonuses sure as hell do not tell the IRS

7) The rest of us who do not get a cash Christmas bonus probably get the gift that keeps giving throughout the year...a jelly of the month club certificate!!

8) Most of us Americans go to church services rather than a Mosque

9) Just because we spread the Christmas presents evenly among our family does not mean we wish to spread our wealth among society as well.

10) Many of service employees actually WORK on Christmas at serving drinks,waiting table or restocking shelves. Someone has to pay taxes to fund the Hawaii vacations!!


26 posted on 12/21/2011 5:16:05 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Sub-Driver
“If he stays home alone, he could be seen as the only adult in the room,” said Susan MacManus, a professor of political science at the University of South Florida.

There, fixed it.

27 posted on 12/21/2011 5:16:27 AM PST by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: EmilyGeiger

Ron Reagan had class. The imposter in office now is getting reparations for perceived things that happened in the past. He looks down at all those who serve; our military, SS, etc. He and his wife take more vacations than Carter ever did.


28 posted on 12/21/2011 5:20:36 AM PST by toolman1401
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To: fatima

They didn’t give Christmas presents to their kids BEFORE he won the Presidency!!


29 posted on 12/21/2011 5:27:32 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Sub-Driver

30 posted on 12/21/2011 5:44:59 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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To: Ann Archy

Right-whatever his faith is-it’s one I can’t figure out.


31 posted on 12/21/2011 5:45:15 AM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Sub-Driver
“It’s dumb not to give our presidents some down time

That's not what ya'll said about Bush so.....

.....Bush took them to Crawford in the summer! Bwahahahaha!

Dumb*sses!

32 posted on 12/21/2011 5:51:37 AM PST by CAluvdubya
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To: Matt Hatter

Yeah, tell it to the young Marine from Claiborne County, TN who recently lost both legs in an explosion in Afghanistan....Dear Leader and his entourage are a bunch of wusses...


33 posted on 12/21/2011 6:16:43 AM PST by jennings2004 (Texas or Kansas?-- American geography is so confusing...at least they have some common border...:)).)
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To: toolman1401

I don’t recall Carter’s vacations but the Clintons are pretty much on par with the Obamas. Hillary dragged Chelsea all over the world.


34 posted on 12/21/2011 6:42:30 AM PST by surrey
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To: Sub-Driver
The toughest call for the president this holiday season may be whether to join his family for Christmas in Hawaii or stay in lonely Washington.

Don we now, his gay apparel, falalalalala la la la
35 posted on 12/21/2011 7:34:29 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: Sub-Driver


36 posted on 12/21/2011 7:37:58 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: hal ogen


37 posted on 12/21/2011 7:40:24 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Sub-Driver

First lady Michelle Obama and their two daughters are already in Hawaii,
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
I guess they couldn’t wait and all of them go at the same time and save the taxpayers some money.


38 posted on 12/21/2011 8:11:56 AM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: rarestia
This would be a problem if the Muslim-in-Chief actually celebrated the birth of the Savior. He bows to Mecca

Obama, like any other communist, hasn't a true religious bone in his body. They only use religion on occasion to help advance the agenda. Commies side with the islamo-facists only because they want to see America destroyed as well. Obama was schooled in Black Liberation Theology (for 20+ years). Liberation Theology is a bogus church movement that promotes communist revolution.

39 posted on 12/21/2011 8:15:16 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Iron Munro

The country is better off with them partying and going on vacation, as opposed to tending to the business of destroying America and the Capitalist system. Let them stay in Hawaii til they’re thrown out in 2012.


40 posted on 12/21/2011 8:23:34 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Sub-Driver
Zero stewing alone in the White Hut while the First Beard and his spawn frolic at a $3,500 per night Hawaii vacation rental is a waste of taxpayer money, but justice for B. Hussein Soetero and his grifter family & entourage.
41 posted on 12/21/2011 8:38:18 AM PST by twister881
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To: mewzilla
Yeah, if you do a search for Obama Hawaii Christmas Vacation even huffypost has a OBAMA SPENDING 4 MILLION dollars VACAY article up.
42 posted on 12/21/2011 8:39:04 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Voter#537

Prior Presidents vacationed in private residents owned by them or friends. This Grifter vacations at high dollar rentals and resorts. Living the high life while he burns Rome to the ground.

But, at least he got to spend Ramadan with his family.


43 posted on 12/21/2011 8:47:35 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: ETL

Link http://www.hawaiisbestrentals.com/detail.lasso?SKU=685
has been pulled from the web. Too much publicity? LOL!


44 posted on 12/21/2011 8:55:36 AM PST by pabianice (")
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To: airborne

I know. I weep for him and the Lovely Michelle as we forgo our annual vacation and stay at home this year with the thermostat turned down. The Republicans should start calling him Oahu Barry.


45 posted on 12/21/2011 8:57:51 AM PST by pabianice (")
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To: silverleaf
I hope Boehner sends over a fruitcake.

I'm sure the _resident has his own fruitcake picked out.

46 posted on 12/21/2011 8:58:49 AM PST by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2011-2012.)
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To: pabianice

How about “Barack Hussein Oahu”?


47 posted on 12/21/2011 9:04:16 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: bIlluminati
I'm sure the _resident has his own fruitcake picked out.

Maybe Zero's $100K+ per year [former] body man, Reggie Love, will come to the White Hut for Christmas "dinner," and they can pack some fudge or nog some eggs.

48 posted on 12/21/2011 9:05:19 AM PST by twister881
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To: ETL

Where are the Occupy Kailua people?


49 posted on 12/21/2011 9:14:38 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Sub-Driver
It's the only tough decision the dude has had to make.

Some say taking out Osama was a tough decision. BS, real US citizen would've done the same thing.

He doesn't have to make any tough decisions, he just stirs up the pot, then sits back and watches.

50 posted on 12/21/2011 9:39:05 AM PST by b4its2late (Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former.)
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