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Romney doubles down on argument that state health mandate is 'conservative'
The Hill ^ | 12/21/2011 | Julian Pecquet

Posted on 12/21/2011 4:19:21 PM PST by mojito

Requiring people to have health insurance is "conservative," GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney told MSNBC on Wednesday, but only if states do it.

The argument aims to improve Romney's appeal to Republican voters concerned about the healthcare reform plan he signed into law as governor of Massachusetts in 2006. The Massachusetts law contains an individual mandate similar to the one in President Obama's healthcare law, which conservatives despise.

"Personal responsibility," Romney said, "is more conservative in my view than something being given out for free by government."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
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Yeah Mitt, you really showed those guys on MSNBC who the REAL conservative is.
1 posted on 12/21/2011 4:19:25 PM PST by mojito
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To: mojito

It may be a states-rights issue, but it sure the heck isn’t conservative.


2 posted on 12/21/2011 4:21:55 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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It’s Romney’s version of “Compassionate Conservatism”.

And we all know what Bush got out of that...

a 27% approval when he left office.

We are screwed. Big Time.


3 posted on 12/21/2011 4:24:51 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: kosciusko51

I think people should be free to decide their health insurance requirements. But, if they collide on the freeways, they get left to tend for themselves. They did not contract for hospital or paramedics.


4 posted on 12/21/2011 4:26:25 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: mojito

Newt needs to give Romney a historical lesson in Reagan conservatism. And Constitutional conservatism.

God help us.


5 posted on 12/21/2011 4:27:41 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: mojito

Piss on Romney


6 posted on 12/21/2011 4:30:29 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
I think people should be free to decide their health insurance requirements.

I'm not disputing that. However, if a state's voters are stupid enough to bring this disaster upon themselves, they deserve it.

However, claiming that state-enforced "personal responsibility" is more conservative is out-and-out BS.

7 posted on 12/21/2011 4:32:27 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: mojito

FUMR!!!


8 posted on 12/21/2011 4:33:45 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: mojito

One with mediocre intelligence would have realized it is time to stop digging by now.

This man is way to narcissistic to admit he is wrong about anything.


9 posted on 12/21/2011 4:37:53 PM PST by Tomhorn (Wake up and smell the coffee)
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To: EagleUSA
You'll enjoy this one then. So let's make fun of him:

Brokered Convention Will Be The Summer Blockbuster Of 2012

10 posted on 12/21/2011 4:39:08 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: rabscuttle385

Mitt—

SCREW YOUR “PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY”

I DON”T HAVE TO BE TOLD BY STATISTS TO BE RESPONSIBLE

NEXT YOU WILL TELL ME I NEED 3 MONTH EMERGENCY FUND AND PROOF

In Massachuetts,
I am guilty until proven innocent by your individual mandate.
the default is you are owed the penalty unless you do A),B),C) D) and E).

But if you don’t make enough income, you don’t have to prove your
individual mandate.

ILLEGAL ALIENS DON”T HAVE TO PROVE THEY HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE
if anyone needs to prove it is illegal and legal immigrants


11 posted on 12/21/2011 4:41:03 PM PST by preamble
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He affirmed that he believes the health-care program was the “right thing” for Massachusetts

Yeah, what did Massachusetts residents do to deserve the mandate enforced by the Massachusetts Department of Revenue?

What happens if I do not meet the mandate?

If you don’t have health insurance by Dec. 31, 2007, you will lose your personal income tax exemption for 2007. That exemption gives you a Massachusetts tax savings of approximately $219.

In 2008, the cost of the penalty goes up. The fine will equal half of the cost of the lowest-priced Health Connector-certified plan for each month that you don’t have coverage

Waivers will be available for those who cannot afford a plan that meets the rules. Check back for updates.

How is the mandate enforced?

The Massachusetts Department of Revenue will enforce the individual mandate through the tax process.

Used to feel sorry for Mass residents, then realized they send the likes of Barney Frank, Jon Kerry, and would still be sending Ted Kennedy if he wasn't burning in Hell, and don't have much sympathy.

FLIP SLICK WILLARD RINO ROMNEY needs to find a new hobby, running for the GOP nomination is a waste of time and money.

The only thing that is certain other than Death and Taxes is the destruction of the GOP if this degenerate coward son of a bitch lies and bribes his way to the nomination.

12 posted on 12/21/2011 4:41:52 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: mojito

He has no clue what ‘conservative’ is.


13 posted on 12/21/2011 4:44:00 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: mojito

Making people pay for their own health service delivered to them is conservative, not paying for others through a government program


14 posted on 12/21/2011 4:44:34 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: preamble

He’s a douchebag.

Where does he get off forcing residents of a state to buy medical insurance enforced by the local IRS and then turn around and say it was right for the residents of Mass because he says so , but other states, if they are lucky, can decide for themselves?

Good Lord, a majority Americans are stupid, but GOP primary voters are not THAT stupid.


15 posted on 12/21/2011 4:45:21 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: mojito

Personal responsibility? How about personal choice, Mitt?

I’ll sit at home before I vote for him. He oozes slime.


16 posted on 12/21/2011 4:45:30 PM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: mojito

Requiring women to have abortions is “conservative,” GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney


17 posted on 12/21/2011 4:46:00 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Rome2000

Romney lies again and again with the same line,

For 93% of the people, nothing changed (because they already had insurance)

Uh, no MITT -— SOMETHING DID CHANGE
WE ARE NOW UNDER YOUR BROWN SHIRTS FROM MASSACHUSETTS
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE

ONLY THOSE RESIDENTS WHO MAKE ENOUGH TO FILE TAXES

THEY GET A PENALTY UNLESS THEY JUMP THROUGH THE 5 PAGE
Schedule HC in accordance with the rules, regulations, giving them
your health ins. company, your personal ID.

SORRY BUT THE TSA DOESN”T REQUIRE THAT MUCH INFO

I AM NOT A TERRORIST MITT

AND THE RESIDENTS OF MASSACHUSETTS ARE NOT HEALTH TERRORISTS

so what there are a few free riders?

it’s true in credit cards, in foreclosures, renters get evicted after living there
for free and trashing the place

NO MITT “NANNY STATE” ROMNEY

has to destroy MY PRIVACY
my relationship to the state

HE HAS TO USE THE STATE POLICE POWER

because Jamie down the street went to the emergency room and cost
me $2000.

so freakin what

Make the hospitals be able to garnish their state wages, take their income
tax rebates.

DON”T MESS WITH ME MITT

YOU COMMUNIST MITT

MITT IS A RED DIAPER DOPER BABY


18 posted on 12/21/2011 4:48:11 PM PST by preamble
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To: preamble
The Romneys are cowards and snake oil salesmen.

Its unconscionable that they en mass have forsworn fighting this nations foreign wars, and he should be disqualified for national office based on that alone.

His father didnt serve either, and the rest of the clan were busy hiding in Mexico where they could practice muslim style polygamy.

He has also taken a firm stand against illegal immigration, which is somewhat ironic, as the evidence suggests that Romney's own grandfather came to America as an illegal immigrant.

His great-grandfather, a devout Mormon in a time when his church encouraged polygamy, fled the US with his multiple wives in 1884, when American law could strip polygamists of the right to vote or serve on juries.

Romney's grandfather and father were born and raised in Mexico, and Romney's father was a child when his family left Mexico at the height of the Mexican Revolution, in 1912. Romney's father's and grandmother were American citizens under the law at that time, and came to America on a train, while his grandfather crossed the border northward in classic "illegal immigrant" fashion, entering US territory on a long walk over barren desert land.

19 posted on 12/21/2011 4:49:57 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: kosciusko51
"Personal responsibility," Romney said, "is more conservative in my view than something being given out for free by government."

Mitt, you ignorant slut. It is not personal if the choice is removed from the individual. We in Massachusetts have no choice, and I am not "being responsible". I am complying with a law under fear of fines and prosecution.
20 posted on 12/21/2011 4:50:16 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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