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Ron Paulís Rhetoric (The candidate has often accused his peers of bigotry)
National Review ^ | 12/22/2011 | Patrick Brennan

Posted on 12/22/2011 5:23:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Ron Paul’s foreign-policy views have long kept him exiled from the mainstream of the Republican party, but his rhetoric has also contributed to his pariah status.

On Friday’s Tonight Show with Jay Leno, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul responded to a question about Michele Bachmann by saying, “She doesn’t like Muslims. She hates Muslims. She wants to go get ’em.” This wasn’t the first time Paul has accused another conservative of Islamophobia — over the years he has repeatedly maligned Republicans for their views on Muslims, suggesting that bigotry is either a natural motivation or a necessary justification for the U.S.’s interventionist foreign policy.

When asked about conservative opposition to the “Ground Zero mosque,” Paul suggested Islamophobia was at the root of the controversy: “They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill-conceived preventative wars. . . . This is all about hate and Islamophobia.”

Paul defended the mosque project with a libertarian appeal to property rights and religious tolerance — principles that some opponents of the mosque indeed may have trampled in their protestations that the placement of a “Cordoba House” next to Ground Zero should be prevented. But Representative Paul wasn’t making a point about offensive language or religious freedom, he was arguing that anti-Muslim sentiments delegitimize interventionist foreign policy. “I believe the [mosque opponents’] goal was not only to peddle the hate but to justify the war,” he said in another defense of the mosque. “Of course, we have to have an enemy, and the people have to be hateful of the enemy.”

In one of his recent columns on Lew Rockwell’s website, Paul called for a doctrine of “mutually assured respect,” a new foreign policy that “requires simply tolerance of others’ cultures and their social and religious values, and the giving up of all use of force to occupy or control other countries and their national resources.” That is, if Americans could shed their antipathy toward Islam, we might be less interested in interventionism.

Considering the last ten years of American foreign policy, Representative Paul suggests Islamophobia is both constitutive of and instrumental to interventionism.

But going further back, Paul’s Islamophobia arguments do not apply to a number of the American interventions he has also opposed. For one, the first Gulf War saved an Islamic monarchy from a more secular Baathist regime, for which Paul offered a paranoid explanation: The Gulf War was part of George H. W. Bush’s “New World Order,” “clearly a U.N., political war fought within U.N. guidelines, not for U.S. security.” He also inveighed against the NATO mission to Serbia, which protected Muslim Bosnians from Orthodox Christian Serbs. Paul believed the Serbian intervention would obviously fail to “stop the spread of war throughout the Balkans,” but the large-scale air war would “certainly help the military-industrial complex.”

The United States pursues an aggressive foreign policy to promote its interests and ideals around the globe. This desire, not hatred for Muslims, is why conservatives such as Michele Bachmann advocate a military presence in the Middle East, and take action (in cooperation with Jordan and Saudi Arabia, of all nations) to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon.

Ron Paul believes that American interests and ideals are best served by keeping our troops at home, and is entitled to that argument. Today’s conservative foreign-policy consensus happens to disagree, and holds American interests are best protected by aggressive policies. Paul is often principled and informed when he takes the other side of this dispute — for instance, in debates, he raises the issue of the “blowback,” i.e. retaliation including terrorist attacks, that results from American invasions and occupations.

Paul’s flaws, however, show through when he is tempted to accuse his opponents of something other than having a different foreign-policy calculus. The substance of Ron Paul’s foreign-policy opinions may cause him to be ostracized from the Republican mainstream anyway, fairly or unfairly, but his disrespect for others’ views ensures that he will remain marginal.

— Patrick Brennan is the 2011 William F. Buckley Fellow at National Review.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigotry; galvestonsnoopy; ronpaul

1 posted on 12/22/2011 5:23:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

RE: “She doesn’t like Muslims. She hates Muslims. She wants to go get ’em.”

Let’s not forget his other line — “Santorum hates gays”


2 posted on 12/22/2011 5:24:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“She doesn’t like Muslims.”

Neither do I.


3 posted on 12/22/2011 5:25:56 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: SeekAndFind

Paul is a piece of shit and he is the one who is truly a racist piece of garbage. I hope it all comes home to roost with this scumbag.


4 posted on 12/22/2011 5:26:37 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy is the one GOP candidate I wouldn’t be able to hold my nose and vote for.


5 posted on 12/22/2011 5:31:23 AM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Le Chien Rouge

RE: “She doesn’t like Muslims.”

Neither do I.

______________________-

Every single one of the 1.2 Billion of them in this planet?


6 posted on 12/22/2011 5:33:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Absolutely, all 1.2 billion of them.

This doesn’t mean I want them extinguished like bugs, I just do not want to share a neighborhood with them.


7 posted on 12/22/2011 5:38:35 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Le Chien Rouge

RE: I just do not want to share a neighborhood with them.

You mean, you want a US immigration policy that states this — NO MUSLIMS NEED APPLY FOR IMMIGRATION ??


8 posted on 12/22/2011 5:40:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Le Chien Rouge
Absolutely, all 1.2 billion of them.
I suppose, by your comment, that you are not old enough to have learned that statements using absolutes ("all") are a display of ignorance?
9 posted on 12/22/2011 5:57:32 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: SeekAndFind

Exactly so! Only a fool would import a fifth column.


10 posted on 12/22/2011 5:58:18 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why not put a brake on all immigration, especially from Muslim countries? My problem with people who say they hate Muslims is that they often end up supporting hypocritical politicians who want to fight Muslims oversees while inviting them over here.


11 posted on 12/22/2011 5:59:30 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Clara Lou

So I’m ignorant.I’m prejudiced against Muslims.

..and in this nation, I am still allowed to have these viewpoints.


12 posted on 12/22/2011 6:12:46 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Le Chien Rouge
..and in this nation, I am still allowed to have these viewpoints
Someone on this thread suggested otherwise?
13 posted on 12/22/2011 6:19:49 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: SeekAndFind

The pervert Paul shows more and more that his claim to being a Constitutionalist is really only a ruse to covertly promote his underlying left-wing agenda. The pervert Paul is a left-wing Code Pink anti-American activist. He is typical of many on the left-wing who will all of sudden love the Constitution if they think they can pervert it to some left-wing cause or to simply undermine conservatism.


14 posted on 12/22/2011 6:25:35 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: Clara Lou

Don’t know, Don’t care.


15 posted on 12/22/2011 6:33:57 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: SeekAndFind
He's retiring from the house this election.....I hope his ridiculous campaigns are also on his retirement agenda.
16 posted on 12/22/2011 6:37:49 AM PST by ontap
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To: SeekAndFind
Paul is a pious fraud. He hits below the belt; he routinely impugns other candidate's motives, and acts Holier than thou. He's a fraud who apparently sees those who hate America (bin Laden, undeniably) as legitimate and rational warriors against the US. We've provoked them in the Run Paul mindset. He sees nothing different in their attacks on the US on 9/11 and American efforts to support peace in the Middle East. It's not just moral equivalence. Paul is an apologist for foreign enemies of America. He hides this disgusting outlook behind a folksy, nervous demeanor, but when all is said and done Ron Paul gives propaganda support to America haters every chance he can. He does this consistently, and like abortion for Liberals, this is a core principle for Run Paul. Paul attacks real conservatives and Republicans and wraps his weird blend of a Henry Wallace foreign policy and dumbed down Ayn Randianism into a deceptive philosophy he calls libertarianism. He's a trojan horse for the Liberals unworthy of sharing the stage with our other candidates.
17 posted on 12/22/2011 6:49:19 AM PST by elhombrelibre ("I'd rather be ruled by the Tea Party than the Democratic Party." Norman Podhoretz)
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To: SeekAndFind

Between the liberal elitists and their parasites on one side and the kook fringe Paul cult on the other, I pray normal conservative mainstream Americans have sufficient numbers to defeat all these people who want to destroy the nation.


18 posted on 12/22/2011 7:37:52 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Proud2BeRight
Between the liberal elitists and their parasites on one side and the kook fringe Paul cult on the other,

But they are both on the same side. They both want to see the destruction of America.
19 posted on 12/22/2011 7:48:34 AM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: rideharddiefast
“But they are both on the same side. They both want to see the destruction of America.”

True, just the strategies and tactics to get there may differ.

20 posted on 12/22/2011 7:51:03 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: SeekAndFind
New Ron Paul political slogan

Ron Paul---the candidate Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky support.

21 posted on 12/22/2011 8:48:04 AM PST by driftless2
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To: SeekAndFind
New Ron Paul political slogan

Ron Paul---the candidate Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky support.

22 posted on 12/22/2011 8:49:14 AM PST by driftless2
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To: SeekAndFind

Paul never said that, yet you put in quotation marks. Deceptive.


23 posted on 12/22/2011 4:12:53 PM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: SeekAndFind
You mean, you want a US immigration policy that states this — NO MUSLIMS NEED APPLY FOR IMMIGRATION ??

In 2008, and as far as I know in 2012, Dr. Paul's policy prescription has been that the State Department should NOT be giving student visas or work visas to terrorist-designated nations. Either they are terrorist countries or they aren't. If they are, it is insanity to allow their people into the country. Simply cutting off visas from the handful of terrorist nations is far preferable to the Bush/Obama police-state with the TSA irradiating and molesting everyone who dares travel via air.

24 posted on 12/22/2011 4:22:53 PM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Plummz

OK, I apologize for putting it in quotes but I don’t apologize for Ron Paul insinuating that Rick Santorum does not like gays AND MUSLIMS ( that was the context of Jay Leno’s question ).

The question is that Santorum ONLY talks about gays in terms of the end of the world. Ron Paul added “and Muslims”.

The reality is Santorum he did not have a problem with homosexuals, but he has “a problem with homosexual acts”.


25 posted on 12/22/2011 4:40:35 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Plummz

I don’t know why you are responding to post number 8 above. That was MY interaction with another poster and has nothing to do with Ron Paul’s immigration policies towards terrorist designated countries.

I DO have an issue with him insinuating that just because someone like Bachmann wants to deal strongly with Iran because the Iranian constitution states unequivocally that their mission is to extend jihad across the world, and eventually to set up a world-wide caliphate, it somehow translates to wanting to make war with 1.2 billion Muslims and believing that all Muslims are the same.

THAT is Ron Paul himself being deceptive.


26 posted on 12/22/2011 4:48:07 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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