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Squatters say foreclosed homes beat homeless shelters (New York)
LA Times ^ | 12-21-11 | Tina Susman

Posted on 12/22/2011 4:02:36 PM PST by dynachrome

Reporting from New York— Slips of paper are pasted to the broken door of the corner row house, violations for the garbage piled near the front steps. The stench of trash wafts up the dark interior stairway, where an ashtray filled with cigarette butts sits like an abandoned potted plant on the second-floor landing.

Nobody lives here, at least not officially.

But as you climb the narrow stairs to the top floor, a door opens into an airy apartment that is home to Tasha Glasgow, who is part of a largely invisible population of squatters occupying vacant homes across America. Given their clandestine lives, it's impossible to say how many people are squatting in this country, but with more than 1.3 million homes in foreclosure and hundreds of thousands of people homeless, advocates say it's safe to assume the number is growing.

"You have these abandoned dwellings that are sitting there vacant, sometimes for many months," said Patrick Markee of the Coalition for the Homeless in New York, where shelters are reporting record numbers of residents. "It's not an issue of whether squatting is right or wrong. The fact is that people are desperate for places to live, and they're going to do what they need to do."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: criminals; homeless; newyork; squatters
Socialist America under obozo. Whining for welfare
1 posted on 12/22/2011 4:02:41 PM PST by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome
Wasting away again in Obamaville...

Looking for my lost 401K.

Some people say there is a Bush to blame..

But I know, it's that Kenyans fault.

2 posted on 12/22/2011 4:05:22 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: dynachrome

“Whining for welfare”

The next hit game show!


3 posted on 12/22/2011 4:07:04 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: dynachrome

If left unopposed they will soon be looking at “occupied” homes.


4 posted on 12/22/2011 4:07:46 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Castigo Cay by Matt Bracken, check it out. And his other works.)
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To: dynachrome
It's not an issue of whether squatting is right or wrong. The fact is that people are desperate for places to live, and they're going to do what they need to do.

It'll be interesting what this clown thinks of his moral relativism when "desperation" leads people to commit illegal acts that directly affect him.

5 posted on 12/22/2011 4:08:17 PM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: dynachrome

This way, they can save enough money for their $8.00/pack smokes to fill the ashtrays full of cigarette butts that sit like abandoned potted plants on the porch.


6 posted on 12/22/2011 4:08:23 PM PST by digger48
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To: dynachrome

It’s just a matter of time before the govt. forces the utility companies to supply power to the squatters.


7 posted on 12/22/2011 4:08:44 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK
It’s just a matter of time before the govt. forces the utility companies to supply power to the squatters.

Well now, they've got to charge their government provided cellphones, don't they? It's also not right that they have to do without broadband internet access too!

And you surely don't expect them to try to register to vote without a proper street address, do you?

8 posted on 12/22/2011 4:15:03 PM PST by digger48
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To: dynachrome
Squatting in a foreclosed home means you never have to worry about rules...it is somebody elses problem.
9 posted on 12/22/2011 4:17:55 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Obama is just the symptom of what is destroying the U.S.)
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To: CaptainK

A lot of these people are 2nd and 3rd generation welfare recipients. It’s all they know............at least that’s what I have been told by someone who should know.


10 posted on 12/22/2011 4:18:59 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: edpc
"It's not an issue of whether squatting robbing banks is right or wrong. The fact is that people are desperate for places to live money, and they're going to do what they need to do."
11 posted on 12/22/2011 4:20:44 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Eye of Unk

If the homes are foreclosed on,they belong to the bank,right? So...why doesn’t the bank either charge them rent or force them to leave? They should draw up some kind of contract with them,stating that if they don’t pay,they gotta go.Even if they charge them fifty bucks a month to stay there...that’s something anyhow.If the banks are afraid of looking “inhumane” by forcing therm to leave,they could set up some sort of contract with them.If the squatter chooses not to play fair,then kick them out!


12 posted on 12/22/2011 4:36:13 PM PST by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: dynachrome

According to the law, if you live there long enough, you get squatter’s rights and they can never kick you out. In fact, if you can manage to hide in some guy’s basement for three years without getting caught, you can actually claim the house and evict the current owner.


13 posted on 12/22/2011 4:40:41 PM PST by Krankor ( spare time.)
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To: basil
A lot of these people are 2nd and 3rd generation welfare recipients.
Give that guy a cigar!!! Bing-o!!!
The endless cycle of welfare will continue to breed this type of entitlement,generation in,generation out..until something is DONE.

Something,perhaps,like this:
(document presented in language of applicant).....Public Assistance Implementation and Usage Contract. This contract, entered into on (date) and expiring on (18 months from implementation date) by the (state agency) and applicant(s) listed herein (must submit names of applicant and children born to her via birth records),allows for the provision of food,housing allowance,child care and education for the purposes of job placement during the contract period,and is understood by all parties concerned that the provision of aforementioned assistance is on a one-time basis,not to be repeated or reinstated at any time for any reason between the applicant(s) and the agency named herein,and is for the aforementioned time period only,and can only be implemented following presentation of documents proving legal citizenship status and a drug screening process,both of which are to be conducted by the agency. Once legal citizenship status and drug screen results are known by the agency and the applicant and found to be favorable,this contract can then be implemented.The following covenants hereby apply and are agreed upon by both the named agency herein and the applicant(s) seeking assistance (failure of any one of these covenants will be considered a contract breach on the part of the applicant,and will result in immediate termination of the contract;assistance will be terminated immediately and can never be reinstated at any time in the future for any reason: Applicant MUST disclose the name(s) of the absent parent of applicant's child/children so that an attempt to obtain monetary support for those children can be made through DNA analysis. Failure to disclose the absent parent's name will result in automatic immediate cessation of benefits. applicant will submit to random home visits which will be unannounced and will occur during the 5-day work week,normally during the early afternoon hours; applicant will submit to random drug testing as directed by the agency; applicant must not conceive,adopt (formally or informally,including family members,immediate or extended) marry or cohabitate during the contract period; applicant must attend a one-year vocational program via a voucher provided by the agency;applicant must attend each class ( two absences will be allowed during the contract period and a doctor's note must be submitted upon returning to class for each absence) and a transportation voucher will be provided by the agency for transportation during class hours;child care will be provided by the agency during class hours only. Once applicant graduates from vocational training, a two-month job-placement period will commence,with child care provided by the agency; Upon applicant's employment,there will be an additional 4 months of ongoing assistance to allow applicant enough time to establish themselves in their occupation and to make child-care arrangements for after the contract period. Once this contract has reached its expiration date,the assistance provided,all provisions and covenants and financial considerations as well,will cease and terminate permanently.The applicant is barred from any and all future assistance. I,________________ hereby agree to adhere to all covenants,rules,etc of this contract. I realize and fully understand that I am bound by this contract in order to receive assistance in any form,and that any violation or breach will result in my not receiving any form of assistance any further. I agree further that this contract was fully explained to me by the agency caseworker and that I will fully comply. (sign & date here)____________________________ Agency hereby agrees to and will implement to the best of its ability and obligations,all covenants of this contract. (agency sign & date)_______________________
14 posted on 12/22/2011 4:42:12 PM PST by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: Eye of Unk

Unless the homes are “occupied” by Smith & Wesson.


15 posted on 12/22/2011 4:42:22 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: dynachrome

You’re right...this is socialism, pure and simple. Another person/group of persons owns something others want and they rationalize an emotional grounds to move to take it.

The repercussions if the police and courts do nothing about this will hurt the so-called “99%” even more. The banks own these properties (I don’t think there are any squatter’s rights in this country without significant passage of time and court approval). So when a bunch of squatters start a fire and damage a neighborhood, or in a drunken stupor fall down the stairs and rack up medical bills...guess who gets sued? Guess who pays the cost of the settlement in the long run? Who loses when property values decline further because the “new neighbors” have a yard like Sanford & Son’s?

Even worse, if socialists are given permission to do this, the next step is to look at John Jones down the road and say “He’s a single guy...what does he need a big house like that just for himself?”


16 posted on 12/22/2011 5:02:25 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: dynachrome

These people treat these homes just like they treat their own. They spread trash everywhere they crap where they like they turn the house into a sh*thole, just like they would do their own home if they had one.

You would think since they are living there free they would show some respect for somoen else’s property, but they don’t . They arent “occupy” people they are scum.

Pigs living in a pigsty they made themselves. When it get so filthy it isn’t fit to live in, they will move on to the next one. This is how crack houses come into being.


17 posted on 12/22/2011 5:06:04 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Krankor

What states have a statute of limitations on squatter’s rights of just three years?


18 posted on 12/22/2011 6:16:45 PM PST by tbw2
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To: tbw2

I saw it on an episode of Gunsmoke, so I guess it happened in Kansas.


19 posted on 12/22/2011 6:25:41 PM PST by Krankor ( spare time.)
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To: dynachrome

Barry’s Amerika is starting to make the old Soviet Union look good.


20 posted on 12/22/2011 6:44:20 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: gimme1ibertee

Sounds good, doesn’t it? The problem is, no one is going to let people, including children, starve. And, if they have to live on the streets, especially if children are involved, some agency somewhere is going to provide for them.

We don’t have masses of people dying in the streets from hunger in this country.

I’ve been involved with people in this situation during the years.


21 posted on 12/22/2011 7:14:46 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil
Sounds good, doesn’t it? The problem is, no one is going to let people, including children, starve. And, if they have to live on the streets, especially if children are involved, some agency somewhere is going to provide for them.

That's true,and,no,children should not be allowed to starve. The parents can go to a charity,a church or a shelter.After they've exercised every option,and refuse to take care of their children,then there can be no other choice but to take the children away from them and place them with foster parents.It's still going to be cheaper than welfare for years and years on end. Besides, it may be doing the kids a favor by placing them with a family that is stable,with two parents that can instill some type of family framework values in them,keeping them from being moved around from pillar to post,with people that obviously don't care enough about them to do anything about their situation.
22 posted on 12/22/2011 11:05:27 PM PST by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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