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Deadline Draws Near for Mass Resignation of Hungarian Doctors (our future under Obamacare)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 28 December 2011 | Gergo Racz

Posted on 12/28/2011 5:13:03 AM PST by Erik Latranyi

Hungary’s health care system may be facing serious staffing issues in a few days, with over 2,500 medical professionals set to quit their jobs on Jan. 1 amid salary demands.

Health care workers are demanding higher pay, saying the current level is insufficient to make a living. They have deposited their resignations earlier in the year, which are to take effect at the end of this month unless the demands are met.

According to the website of the doctors’ group organizing the effort, 2,577 people have submitted their documents by Dec 3. They account for about a quarter of doctors working in hospital care.

The doctors want their salaries increased to three times the national average salary, 200,000 forints ($854.70) a month as basic pay and 300,000 forints for doctors with specialist qualifications.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: doctors; healthcare; hungary; obamacare
Control of healthcare providers' salaries is the next step.......here is the result.
1 posted on 12/28/2011 5:13:13 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi
It's not widely appreciated, but an absolute ceiling was placed on the number of US physicians several years ago. This was accomplished by limiting the number of hospital residency positions paid for by Medicare.

AFAIK, nobody in Zero's administration seems to be aware of this. Given that the lag time for producing a new physician (from the decision to take pre-med courses as an undergraduate) is perhaps a dozen or more years, this is a shortage that they should be planning for right now, if not yesterday. But they aren't aware that this is potentially a huge problem. US physicians don't need to resign or go on strike. They only need to close their practices to new Medicare and Medicaid patients. Which is something that many/most physicians are doing anyway, without any organized effort at all!

2 posted on 12/28/2011 5:46:50 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Obama would use Federal power and benefits to stop this. Stop working without permission - increasing penalties and denial of access to government benefits, permits to do anything, etc.
3 posted on 12/28/2011 5:53:02 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Erik Latranyi

Our government doesn’t care. They think Cuba’s medical system is terrific ... for other people.


4 posted on 12/28/2011 5:55:52 AM PST by Tax-chick (Two women in one house ... and one of 'em a redhead!)
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To: Truth29

I think Obama is dead on here. He is forcing doctors out so medical care can be rationed due to the lack of physicians.

All of these penalties and fines that are going to be implemented are meaningless. A doctor would just cash out, retire and move to Texas.


5 posted on 12/28/2011 6:28:28 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Control the media, you control its citizens.)
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To: Sooth2222
But they aren't aware that this is potentially a huge problem.

The plan is to replace physicians with lower-paid physician's assistants, nurse practitioners, and nurses. Driving physicians out of practice is on purpose.

6 posted on 12/28/2011 6:45:52 AM PST by poindexter
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To: Erik Latranyi
Idi Obama says ATM machines costs thousands of bank teller jobs to be lost.

Does that mean the blood pressure machine at the supermarket costs thousand of doctor jobs?

7 posted on 12/28/2011 6:51:29 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Either way, kiss your doctor and your azz good-bye.


8 posted on 12/28/2011 7:14:51 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (NOT VOTING gets 0bamao re-elected.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Is this the plan?

Doctors here will all quit so there will be a ‘crisis’ and they’ll have to ‘bring in’ doctors from other countries who will surely get ‘HIGH’ government pay.


9 posted on 12/28/2011 7:20:35 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (NOT VOTING gets 0bamao re-elected.)
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To: poindexter
The plan is to replace physicians with lower-paid physician's assistants, nurse practitioners, and nurses. Driving physicians out of practice is on purpose.

Let me assure you that this is just not possible! Though Zero's minions might like to think so, medical skills are not fungible. There is just no way to train a nurse to perform coronary bypass surgery, read a biopsy or interpret an MRI scan.

I do think that Obama believes that there is a significant difference in life expectancies between demographic groups and this is "unfair" (both his mother and father died at an early age) and it is because not enough health care is delivered to all groups. The opposite is in fact the case. Demographic groups with substandard life expectancies account for a disproportionate amount of health care costs.

There already exists a shortage of physicians in most medical specialties today, before Obamacare has even been implemented. Effectively what Obamacare will do is guarantee a two or three-tier health care system. If a doctor is setting up a new practice, will he or she choose a high income area with a high proportion of private insurance or a low income area with Medicaid, Medicare and a steady stream of patients with complicated pathology with expected poor treatment outcomes? I can appreciate why the AMA, the insurance companies, the hospital management corporations and the drug companies all signed on to Obamacare. They didn't do so because they are going to get screwed.

10 posted on 12/28/2011 7:26:34 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
"All of these penalties and fines that are going to be implemented are meaningless. A doctor would just cash out, retire and move to Texas."

Maybe. There are lots of other ideas in this thread about how care can be rationed or skills replaced by lower paid sources. But there is also the possibility that the coercive powers of the state will be used to discourage such retirements such as targeted taxes for such retirements, limitations on such doctors to get necessary permits to do anything else, targeted state attention on the financial affairs of those doctors and their families, etc.

11 posted on 12/28/2011 7:47:18 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Truth29

The goal is to make all healthcare providers (doctors, nurses, etc) members of SEIU where they will be treated well by Democrats and horrible by Republicans.

The liberals will cement their power-base with such a move.

In the UK, the healthcare system added 2,000,000 people to the gov’t payroll. The UK system is approximatley 1/3 of our system.

Do you think 6,000,000 new SEUI employees will ever support repeal of Obamacare or cuts in their own benefits?


12 posted on 12/28/2011 8:56:01 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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