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NYT's Anti-Concealed Carry Report Actually Proves That No. Carolina and Its Permit Holders Are Safer
Newsbusters ^ | 12/28/11 | Tom Blumer

Posted on 12/28/2011 8:39:20 PM PST by Nachum

It seems that if you're a New York Times reporter on a mission to prove something you think must be obvious and your research leads to the exact opposite result from what you smugly expected, you forge ahead and try to pretend that you proved your point anyway.

At least that how it seems to have worked out for Times reporter Michael Luo in a report appearing in Tuesday's print edition which tried to show readers how one state which allows residents to carry concealed weapons with a permit is allegedly allowing large numbers of dangerous people to possess them. But the way the math works out, North Carolina, the state which the Times investigated, is far safer than many jurisdictions without such laws, even given the problems cited with pulling permits from those who have committed crimes and should not still be holding them. Additionally, the murder rate among North Carolinians who don't have permits or associate with those who do is higher than it is among permit holders. Here is Luo's pathetic attempt to make a case which can't be made:

The bedrock argument for this movement is that permit holders are law-abiding citizens who should be able to carry guns in public to protect themselves. “These are people who have proven themselves to be among the most responsible and safe members of our community,” the federal legislation’s author, Representative Cliff Stearns, Republican of Florida, said on the House floor.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: again; anticoncealed; carry; nyts; report

1 posted on 12/28/2011 8:39:29 PM PST by Nachum
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


2 posted on 12/28/2011 8:48:08 PM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Nachum

Whats always missing is counts on lives saved by concealed carry..
Because you cannot count them..

Not only lives saved but thefts thwarted, and wounds not realized.. mental and physical..
Deaths caused by concealed carry are extremely small.. if any..


3 posted on 12/28/2011 8:49:00 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Nachum

NYC should dig a moat around it’s great festering concrete cesspool, they can stay inside and free Americans can stay out.


4 posted on 12/28/2011 11:34:44 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Surprise, surprise, CCW permits holds are safer. who woulda thunk?


5 posted on 12/29/2011 5:12:06 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Surprise, surprise, CCW permits holders are safer. who woulda thunk?


6 posted on 12/29/2011 5:12:18 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Progov

NYC and many other large urban areas are up to the eyeballs in barbarians. They cannot be trusted with freedom, but that is no reason to attack the liberties of decent Americans.


7 posted on 12/29/2011 7:18:38 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: hosepipe
Whats always missing is counts on lives saved by concealed carry..

Then again, that places the argument on the basis of costs and benefits. While this position is a win for our side, because the benefits outweigh the costs as unwittingly shown by the NYT's attempt to show the opposite, a more principled argument is that free people should have the right to be able to defend their lives against criminal attack even if it could be shown that doing such was a net detriment. Which however it isn't. (Sorry, NYT.)

8 posted on 12/29/2011 9:04:09 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Which is a signal motivation for the gun-grabbers: they can’t admit that their own liberal policies have had a hand in producing the dysfunction, so they have to blame the instrumentality.

They’re a one-note band. It’s astonishing, but revealing, that their one-note still sways some fools.


9 posted on 12/29/2011 10:02:16 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01
It's a phobia, liberal urban kids have been conditioned to fear and hate guns to the point that it is not rational.

It really is an actual mental illness.

10 posted on 12/29/2011 10:32:15 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: coloradan

I tend to adhere to the “make no law”.. part of the Constitution..


11 posted on 12/29/2011 11:08:57 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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