Posted on 12/29/2011 5:53:34 AM PST by SJackson
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Who was that other 'crackpot' who said "avoid foreign entanglements."?
They were astute elder statesmen that lived in a world WITHOUT nuclear weapons.
Paul stated that we’re under great threat because we occupy so many countries…
Oh were it so, then perhaps we could have gotten something (like maybe preferential treatment towards all the oil Iraq has?) in exchange for all the Blood and Treasure we expended freeing the Iraqis from the Butcher of Baghdad?
If so, maybe we could have imposed by fiat, new Constitutions in Iraq and Af-gan which specifically forbade making Islam/Sharia the "Controlling Authority," like we did with Japan (and Shinto) after WWII?
Is there any Paul supporters here brave enough to man up and admit you are supporting this certifiable, lunatic? If so, would y'all be so kind as to edumacate this poor, ignorant, Right-Wing, Extremist, Clinger, exactly WHICH Country we have recently (or continue to) "OCCUPY?"
Exactly, and communications were considerably slower. In those days, avoiding "foreign entanglements" meant not getting involved in wars in the old country, months away from America.
Today, a terrorist can be equipped in Yemen and execute his/her mission in Rapid City, SD within three days.
It is a lot smaller world and it is still preferable to fight the bad guy over there rather than over here.
Ping...
You Paulitards are as clueless as your hero if you think the founding fathers wrote the Constitution as a suicide pact. Washington was a General and if you remember we even had French help in the revolution. You think in the 21st Century he would hole up and hide whilst our enemies drew their plans against us...
Here is a partial list of foreign military basees.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases
It’s a stretch to say we are “occupying” these countries of course, but do we need to have 140+ foreign bases to achieve our foreign policy goals? How about 12 more aircraft carriers, a couple dozen more subs and perfecting our hypersonic bomb capability?
This article is heavy on hearsay and rhetoric and basically just says that Ron Paul is naive/soft on Iran, is skeptical about the Bush administration/CIA motives and does not think the government has constitutional authority to take our tax dollarss and give them to another country.
Those are all points that should be debated and compared to his positions on the other 10 or so key platform statements and contrasted with our other so-called conservative choices.
Why thank you, I cannot begin to imagine how much more I would have accomplished if only I was half as smart as you think you are.
we would be wise to go back to what they said, did and wrote.
It is no stretch to realize that if I was half as smart as I thought I was I am still 10 times smarter than any given Paulitard, unless of course they too support Iran blowing up their fellow Americans on purpose, then they are just traitorous scum.
So where do you fall...
And I also note you didn't (or can't) address my point...
Your points are so arsine they are not worth addressing.
But let me suggest this to you, unless you are trying to alienate Paul supporters as a democrat worker, you might want to remember the old adage, "You catch more bees with honey..." Starting to seem to me that all of the campaigns other than Rick S's would rather not have Ron Paul supporters votes in the General.
As far as “alienating” Paul supporters as “democratic worker” (sheesh if I had a dollar) since his positions are the democratic ones, his supporters come from OWS, druggies and Code Pink as well as the outer reaches of the Libertarian barrel, people not interested in our nations security as long as they have their pot or free money, exactly what is being “Alienated”...
...Maybe you should take a breath, and listen to reasons other than let's blow up the world and rebuild it in your image of perfection. That or go back to your hero worship of whomever. I'll leave off the personal attacks. See ya later, maybe.
1. Prior to European meddling in the middle east (circa 1910, Jews lived all over the middle east in peace. (Check out GERTRUDE BELL, THE DESERT QUEEN.) Both jews and arabs were promised the land where Israel is today. This is the base for the current muslim hate for jews.
2. The US already tried to suppress knowledge of how to build a nuclear weapon. It didn’t work. Russia, China, France, North Korea, India and Pakistan all reportedly have had nuclear weapons. Yet in over 55 years, the US is the only nation to have used a nuclear weapon on another country. (BTW, Pakistan is a muslim country.)
I once tried debating with them. Realized how stupid I was for even trying.
As far as personal attacks, I lay off those who reason and share my views and even those that differ from me but apporach with reason as well.
Dumb-ass is mild compared to what I really think.
I have listen to all I need to hear from Paul and his supporters.
I once tried debating with them. Realized how stupid I was for even trying.
As far as personal attacks, I lay off those who reason and share my views and even those that differ from me but apporach with reason as well.
But when it comes to crazy bastards and their sycophants who have no qualms in radical Muslim nations that have the ability to orbit satellites being well on their way to nuclear weapons, weapons that could fall on my family (something I find is a very personal attack)...
Dumb-ass is mild compared to what I really think.
...We can agree on that one point, but from different direction. The fact that I read these threads, for some reasons, I don't respond anymore because of the invective and lack of FR standards on civility. I was pinged to this thread without knowing why, I won't do that again.
...We can agree to differ on this issue, but, maybe agree on others. Have a nice day.
...Have a nice day.
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