Skip to comments.U.S. District Court in Virginia Expedites Rick Perry’s Ballot Access Lawsuit
Posted on 12/29/2011 11:59:17 AM PST by smoothsailing
December 29th, 2011
U.S. District Court Judge John A. Gibney of Virginia has set a hearing in Rick Perrys presidential primary ballot access lawsuit. He will consider Perrys request for injunctive relief on January 13. In the meantime, he has established a briefing schedule, and also has instructed attorneys for Perry to communicate with all other Republican presidential primary candidates who had filed a declaration of candidacy, to explain to them how they may intervene in the lawsuit. This shows foresight and thoughtfulness on the part of the judge. The case is Perry v Judd, 3:11-cv-856. Judge Gibney is an Obama appointee. The issue is the states ban on out-of-state circulators.
Good. I hope the rule changes. Romney and Paul shouldn’t have a lock on the ballot there.
They’ll all end up on the ballot.
Hey gotta give kudos to Perry on this one.
He played a good hand.
Gee, wouldn't that be nice! I'll actually be able to make a choice on my own, rather than have the Politburo (aka VA GOP) choose my candidates for me. >:-0
I like a fighter, and applaud Perry for having some gonads om this. Whether he wins or not is another story, but at least he stepped up to the plate.
“...all other Republican presidential primary candidates who had filed a declaration of candidacy”
Yeah, if the requirement that petition-gatherers be elgible state voters is what gets thrown out, and the SC has ruled that way before, then ‘any one who filed’ is the logical outcome.
I thought that Rick Perry was OPPOSED to the federal courts interfering in a state’s elections process.
Even though Perry forcing VA to put him and Newt back on the ballot will probably be pulled from breaking since it’s Perry doing it.
Can anyone here find where one of these lawsuits amounted to anything? I looked around and it appears as though fighting a state party on rules of eligibility is almost impossible. If the toads in the VA GOP apparatus want to play games and they are using established rules already set in place, Perry won’t have any standing. Is there something I am missing here with Perry’s lawsuit?
Good news so far.
He’s challenging the State Law.
The law the Va GOP followed.
There’s been a lot of guesswork and misinformation about.
Isn’t Bob McDonald the Gov there, a staunch conservative repub? How would it be for him if he allowed this to stand in his state... it would reflect very poorly on the State itself, the state GOP, and especially the Gov... ya gotta be kidding me, the only state in the union disallowing Repub candidates for POTUS... if ya ask me, I’d say that’d be the dumbest thing that could happen, made-to-order ridicule for the Demo machine... C-mon Va, get your shit together.
What can he do?
The law has to be followed until it’s changed or overturned.
I was reading the GOP here in VA also wants to have voters sign a Loyalty Oath in order to vote in the primary. The establishment is getting foolish.
I hope that Newt is piggybacking on Perry’s action in some form or another, to have a similar positive result if it should be the outcome. You know, piggybacking, as in NOT how Christie was piggybacking the 26-state VA-based health care lawsuit.
Yep, that would be great, a Federal Court telling a state political party what there rules have to be.
I never thought I'd see support for something like this on a "conservative" site.
The ‘toads’ changed the rules recently and all candidates’ signatures were not verified. Apparently Romney & Paul’s were not checked.....different set of standards depending on how many were submitted.
Also only registered VA residents were allowed to collect signatures.
I hope all the details eventually come out....I think Perry has a strong case and the VA voters should thank him for making sure they have more than two choices in their Primary.
Any idea why Santorum & Bachmann did not try to submit signatures?
Well, if it pisses you off, it's certainly worthwhile! :)
That was back when he had pretenses of being a conservative. No conservative would ever want a Federal judge interfering with the internal rules of a state political party. That's DU type stuff.
He’s not challenging the VAGOP, he’s challenging VA state law.
That often happens when you pledge allegiance to a Myth..
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Right, the judge acknowledged a second printing may be required....
“Gibney said that if Perry prevails in the case, state election officials may have to print the ballots a second time. The judge set a deadline of Jan. 6 for the other Republican presidential candidates to intervene in the case.”
“Rep. Ron Paul submitted just under 15,000, and was submitted to signature-by-signature scrutiny on the same basis as the other candidates who submitted fewer than 15,000 signatures. After more than 7 hours of work, RPV determined that Rep. Paul had cleared the statutory 10,000/400 signature standard...”
So, I guess in the 1800's you'd be all for arresting people involved with the Underground Railroad?
The reason the federal courts accepted this as a federal case is that it affects the country nationwide. If this had just been a state problem for Virginia to deal with, then the state could have dealt with it in and of itself, but when something a state does involves the entire country or at least affects the entire country, it then is considered a federal issue, not a simple state issue.
That’s a significant decision that should have been in the article.
But wait - there's more. VA is an "open" primary. The Democrats can vote to eliminate the best conservatives.
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Very good! You can definitely prove discriminatory treatment. Romney and Paul had run there before and were not subjected to the same weird scrutiny as Gingrich and Perry. The other three candidates didn’t even plan to run in VA, so they wouldn’t have been on the ballot anyway.
Also, from what I have read, the verification was a computerized scan that would have rejected an address if the signatory had written “St.” instead of “Street,” if the latter had been what he had put on his initial registration.
Not that intrade is so special ... but Rick Perry comes in third in Florida!
I’ m sure that proves to an idiot that Governors should break the law.
Good for Perry, good for Liberty and good for America.
So you will follow a law, no matter how unethical it is or how much it disenfranchises people. Got it. You would have been very happy in 30's Germany.
I imagine that oath has something to do with “I will vote for the eventual nominee no matter which RINO s**tbird the elites shove down our throats.”
“The reason the federal courts accepted this as a federal case is that it affects the country nationwide. If this had just been a state problem for Virginia to deal with, then the state could have dealt with it in and of itself, but when something a state does involves the entire country or at least affects the entire country, it then is considered a federal issue, not a simple state issue.”
Ok, I see. So when Texas decides to require that voters show a picture ID to vote, the Federal Courts can intervene because that affects the country nationwide?
And when a state’s Republican Party decides to hold “Closed Primaries” the Federal Courts can intervene because that affects the country nationwide?
And you would also agree that Rick Perry was wrong when he came out in opposition to the Federal Courts rejection of the 2011 Texas Legislative Redistricting Plan?
After all, Texas redistricting does affect the country nationwide!
Yes, yes, and yes! :)
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I never thought I’d see support for a piece of garbage like Mitt Romney on a conservative website like this....yet there are a few here who either mistakenly believe that he is a conservative (even though he’s never done ONE damn conservative thing in his wretched political life) or they are mormons and would vote for Barak Obama if he converted.
Doesn’t matter. You’ve shown all of us what kind of person you are.
You better believe it’s more than a state issue. This is a primary for the national election for President of the United States.
To say it interferes with merely a state matter is ridiculous.
BTW, the poster who said that it does, hates Perry for not supporting a Texas License plate with a Confederate Flag-sporting logo.
I can absolutely guarantee you that the hate will continue no matter what, unless there’s a religious miracle or some such.
So I ask that poster...who are you for that would support you on the Confederate Flag?
Is it Ron Paul, or someone else?
Let us in on it.
So we can compare and contrast YOUR guy with Rick Perry...
Like our buddy Herman Cain used to say, "you're mixing apples with oranges."
Banning an entire FIELD of presidential candidates from the ballot is damn near treasonous! I don't care who files this suit, Bachmann, Newt, whoever. Its the right thing to do. People have the RIGHT TO VOTE and Virginia is usurping the process. Get with the program, oddball.
Thanks for the clarification.....my information was based on an early report which said that both Romney & Paul had submitted enough signatures to avoid scrutiny.