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Court restores ban on corporate political money
AP via SFGate ^ | 12/30/11 | MATT GOURAS, Associated Press

Posted on 12/30/2011 6:07:38 PM PST by SmithL

Helena, Mont. (AP) -- The Montana Supreme Court is setting up a possible challenge to aspects of the high profile U.S. Supreme Court decision that granted political speech rights to corporations.

The state court decided Friday to restore Montana's century-old ban on direct spending by corporations . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: corporatefreespeech; corporations; freespeech
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Yes, you are looking at it wrong.
Any control on money is control of our right to organize, associate, and fight for what we believe in.
There should me no limit on who can contribute, other than it must not come from a foreign source.
There should not be any limit on the amount that can be contributed.
Money IS Speech.


21 posted on 01/01/2012 7:08:14 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Yes, you are looking at it wrong.
Any control on money is control of our right to organize, associate, and fight for what we believe in.
There should me no limit on who can contribute, other than it must not come from a foreign source.
There should not be any limit on the amount that can be contributed.
Money IS Speech.


22 posted on 01/01/2012 7:08:31 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
There should me no limit on who can contribute, other than it must not come from a foreign source.

Does that suggest that corporations should not be able to contribute?

23 posted on 01/01/2012 7:49:02 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

If they can’t be represented they can’t be taxed. Being included in the political process is a necessary part of how this country is structured.


24 posted on 01/01/2012 7:53:12 PM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

No, it does not, not at all.
As long as it is a United States domestic corporation.
BTW, the ban on foreign political money has been in force for decades.


25 posted on 01/02/2012 10:05:38 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: gunsequalfreedom

No, it does not, not at all.
As long as it is a United States domestic corporation.
BTW, the ban on foreign political money has been in force for decades.


26 posted on 01/02/2012 10:05:41 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: gunsequalfreedom

No, it does not, not at all.
As long as it is a United States domestic corporation.
BTW, the ban on foreign political money has been in force for decades.


27 posted on 01/02/2012 10:05:56 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: discostu
If they can’t be represented they can’t be taxed. Being included in the political process is a necessary part of how this country is structured.

Silly, corporations don't pay taxes, they only collect taxes. Only people pay taxes. You should have learned that in conservatism 101. Your argument does not work but keep trying. This has been a good discussion in this thread. A lot of good thought going on. You are not alone in the people that disagree wtih me...so far. :)

28 posted on 01/04/2012 12:14:31 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: discostu
If they can’t be represented they can’t be taxed. Being included in the political process is a necessary part of how this country is structured.

Silly, corporations don't pay taxes, they only collect taxes. Only people pay taxes. You should have learned that in conservatism 101. Your argument does not work but keep trying. This has been a good discussion in this thread. A lot of good thought going on. You are not alone in the people that disagree wtih me...so far. :)

29 posted on 01/04/2012 12:57:58 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

“I realize FR has slipped a bit in the decorum department over the years but you have taken it a giant leap towards the DUmmy flavor of discourse. I don’t believe that is what is expected here.”

How the hell would you know, newcomer!!!!


30 posted on 01/04/2012 1:09:35 AM PST by dalereed
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To: gunsequalfreedom

You’ve got this one wrong on multiple levels.

First they DO pay taxes on their own income.

Second they ARE people legally. Corporate personhood is a hot topic but as the law currently stands when they incorporate (form a body) they become legally a person with duties (like taxes) and rights (like freedom of expression).


31 posted on 01/04/2012 8:07:15 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: discostu
Second they ARE people legally. Corporate personhood is a hot topic but as the law currently stands when they incorporate (form a body) they become legally a person with duties (like taxes) and rights (like freedom of expression).

Not any corporations I have been involved with. It is a seperate entity, not one and the same as its owners. Maybe I misunderstand your point.

32 posted on 01/04/2012 7:54:59 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: dalereed
How the hell would you know, newcomer!!!!

Want to take a test on FR history? Bet I know more than you think I do.

Let's try and easy one. What is HTML bootcamp? I have not seen it refrenced around here in a quite a few years but it used to be a regular posting.

Bonus question: Give one reason why a fellow FReeper would direct another FReeper to HTML bootcamp?

33 posted on 01/04/2012 8:04:11 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Actually EVERY corporation you’ve ever been involved with was a “person” under the law, filled out income tax forms, and could spend express itself via commercials and political donations. Now they might not have had taxable profit, and they might not have chosen to express themselves, but they still had to fill out 1120 and had the ability to make those donations.


34 posted on 01/05/2012 7:36:09 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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