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Surprise! Santorum: birth control harms women and society
CN8 Nitebeat ^ | Thursday, July 28. 2005

Posted on 01/03/2012 1:02:05 AM PST by NoPrisoners



TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcontrol; contraception; santorum
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To: surroundedbyblue
Glad you’re ok with dumping synthetic hormones into your body for the sake of convenient sex. It’s women like you who bitch about men making them sex objects, yet your mentality is what allows that to happen.

What an insignificant and miserable life you must lead! *Sex*, and not the physical expression of love between a husband and wife, must dominate your every thought.

Stay out of my bedroom, Bozo.

81 posted on 01/03/2012 7:35:54 AM PST by NoPrisoners ("When in the course of human events...")
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To: Claud

Has the thought ever occurred that some married couples still like to have sex but have already had a family and don’t want to take on more children then they can afford?

Or is God against that too?


82 posted on 01/03/2012 7:43:37 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: NoPrisoners

“What an insignificant and miserable life you must lead!”

Quite the contrary. My life is very purpose-filled & quite joyus!

“*Sex*, and not the physical expression of love between a husband and wife, must dominate your every thought.”

Not at all. I’m not blind to the fact, though, that most men view women as an object of gratification & that most women, seeking acceptance & a relationship, quickly oblige by filling their bodies with drugs that carry tremendous side effects....all to please a man. Ridiculous. Then we wonder why girls are depressed, abusing drugs, and engaging in self-destructive behavior while the boys just carry on having fun. It’s all a big freaking lie. And people like you, who embrace it, just perpetuate the problem.

I have no interest in your bedroom.


83 posted on 01/03/2012 7:45:02 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: dangus

Ya think Onan was the first guy to pull out? Nahhhhhhh...

Here’s what really happened, and it has nothing to do with birth control: Context means everything, and a lack of understanding of the Torah causes much misunderstanding of its events.

God slew Onan because the man contemptuously refused to fulfill his familial responsibility under the Old Covenant. This particular practice is called levirate marriage, in which a dead man’s closest unmarried male relation (usually a younger brother, as in this case) married the widow to produce an heir for the dead man. This duty is spelled out in Deuteronomy 25:5-10 to preserve tribal inheritance rights (verse 6). Another, happier circumstance of levirate marriage is recorded in the book of Ruth, an event that eventually produced Israel’s greatest king, David (Ruth 4:17).

Read more: http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/BQA/k/64/Why-Did-God-Slay-Onan-Genesis-383-10.htm#ixzz1iPUN3Q3a


84 posted on 01/03/2012 7:50:40 AM PST by magritte
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To: surroundedbyblue
Then we wonder why girls are depressed, abusing drugs, and engaging in self-destructive behavior while the boys just carry on having fun. It’s all a big freaking lie. And people like you, who embrace it, just perpetuate the problem.

The assumptions you make are astounding. Did I ever once claim to take BCPs? No. Do I advocate BCPs? No. Neither do I support the use of IUDs. There ARE other ways of preventing sperm and ova from meeting.

As for girls buying into the male-dominated sexuality crap, you might, just perhaps, lead by example and teach boys to revere instead of objectify girls.

Just a thought. But perhaps it's easier for you to blame the availability of contraception, rather than advocate personal responsibility.

85 posted on 01/03/2012 7:56:52 AM PST by NoPrisoners ("When in the course of human events...")
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To: NoPrisoners

You advocate contraception.

Lead by example??? You assume I am a male. I’m not. I’m a 35 year old woman with a 4 year-old daughter.

And for the record, I DO advocate personal responsibility. And contraception is NOT a form of personal responsibility. It’s amazing to me how blind you are to the problems inflicted on our society by the contraceptive mentality. Geez. I’ll pray for you - you need to wake up.


86 posted on 01/03/2012 8:02:09 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: VanDeKoik

Again, it’s morally fine to space out children as long as there’s no attempt at actively blocking procreation. You just limit your sexual activity to naturally infertile periods. Plenty of Catholic couples do exactly that.


87 posted on 01/03/2012 8:06:09 AM PST by Claud
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To: NoPrisoners

Well such husbands need to grow up. Frankly, with such selfish men around it’s not surprising women have gotten such a dim view of childbirth.


88 posted on 01/03/2012 8:08:38 AM PST by Claud
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To: NoPrisoners

It appears to me (correct me if I’m wrong) - your problem isn’t Rick Santorum - so much as it is the catholic teaching.

Of course - you don’t like it that Rick actually believes in the teaching of the church he belongs to.

No one is forcing anyone to be a catholic.

While my husband and I have a large family - no one forced me to. I am not treated as a “breeding machine” - and the catholic teaching is vastly different than Islam.

While I disagree with many politicians on their PERSONAL opinions - I don’t require 100% with my personal beliefs in order for someone to get my vote.

Is it your position that a practicing, faithful catholic should not seek the presidency?


89 posted on 01/03/2012 8:32:04 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: taterjay

taterjay,
you are very welcome. Thank you for your kind words.


90 posted on 01/03/2012 8:41:09 AM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: NoPrisoners

I don’t think that he proposes banning it, but that he is simply stating his personal attitude towards it. Honesty should be appreciated, even if we disagree with the opinion.


91 posted on 01/03/2012 8:54:40 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Well if you need a heart bypass remember that is mutilation .


92 posted on 01/03/2012 8:57:43 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: magritte

The problem with your reasoning is that the bible specifically said why God slew him. Why was he so significant that God “made an example of him,” well, that’s where your context matters. But what was his sin? The bible is specific.


93 posted on 01/03/2012 8:59:36 AM PST by dangus
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To: org.whodat

It must be hard going through life with such a defunct moral compass. I feel sorry that you can’t differentiate between medicine & surgery for HEALING to promote life vs medicine & surgery used to prevent life.

I pity you.


94 posted on 01/03/2012 9:08:07 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: surroundedbyblue

No you don’t, no one bit. And it has nothing to do with morals.


95 posted on 01/03/2012 9:23:27 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: surroundedbyblue
contraception is NOT a form of personal responsibility

I can't believe you actually think this. I guess multiple out-of-wedlock births are ok with you.

Geez. I’ll pray for you - you need to wake up.

Please don't. I don't need your brand of Christianity.

96 posted on 01/03/2012 9:35:59 AM PST by NoPrisoners ("When in the course of human events...")
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To: Scotswife
Is it your position that a practicing, faithful catholic should not seek the presidency?

Not at all. Just don't force me into a Catholic mold.

97 posted on 01/03/2012 9:37:48 AM PST by NoPrisoners ("When in the course of human events...")
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To: NoPrisoners

“I can’t believe you actually think this. I guess multiple out-of-wedlock births are ok with you.”

Of course not. Being responsible means not having sex until you are married. Duh. See, you buy into the contraception lie. It dosen’t work. Most people who h ave abortions & most out of wedlock births are to women who are contracepting. Get with it.


98 posted on 01/03/2012 9:37:48 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: surroundedbyblue
Most people who h ave abortions & most out of wedlock births are to women who are contracepting. Get with it.

Do you have any facts to substantiate your assertion? I doubt it.

And you can quit with the holier-than-thou crap too. Live your life the way you want, and leave me to live mine.

99 posted on 01/03/2012 9:43:16 AM PST by NoPrisoners ("When in the course of human events...")
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To: Scotswife
It appears to me (correct me if I’m wrong) - your problem isn’t Rick Santorum - so much as it is the catholic teaching.

I wear a Saint Dymphna medal (look her up), duly blessed by a local priest, and it gives me great comfort. I've spent many more peaceful and regenerating moments praying alone in Catholic chapels than in Protestant churches.

After watching and listening to Newt after his conversion to Catholicism, I thought perhaps it was worth a second look. But gauging from some responses on this thread, I'll stay simply and quite happily unaffiliated.

Long story short, Catholicism itself is probably ok, but some of her representatives are just as bigoted as fervently evangelical Protestants.

100 posted on 01/03/2012 10:00:33 AM PST by NoPrisoners ("When in the course of human events...")
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