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Nowhere to Go, Patients Linger in Hospitals, at a High Cost
The New York Times ^ | January 2, 2012 | By SAM ROBERTS

Posted on 01/03/2012 7:23:36 PM PST by moonshinner_09

Hundreds of patients have been languishing for months or even years in New York City hospitals, despite being well enough to be sent home or to nursing centers for less-expensive care, because they are illegal immigrants or lack sufficient insurance or appropriate housing.

As a result, hospitals are absorbing the bill for millions of dollars in unreimbursed expenses annually while the patients, trapped in bureaucratic limbo, are sometimes deprived of services that could be provided elsewhere at a small fraction of the cost.

“Many of those individuals no longer need that care, but because they have no resources and many have no family here, we, unfortunately, are caring for them in a much more expensive setting than necessary based on their clinical need,” said LaRay Brown, a senior vice president for the city’s Health and Hospitals Corporation. Under state law, public hospitals are not allowed to discharge patients to shelters or to the street.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; healthcare; hospitaldischarge; hospitalrelease; hospitals; immigration; ny
Where Our Does Responsibility End?
1 posted on 01/03/2012 7:23:41 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

How many are illegals?


2 posted on 01/03/2012 7:25:46 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: moonshinner_09

Well ... that’s what the Death Panels are for ... right? [/s]


3 posted on 01/03/2012 7:29:29 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war. It's coming.)
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To: 2banana

It would be all of them.ILLEGALS NOT eligable for any government benifits which would pay for this care. (Like SSDI.....which requires having a SSN and paying taxes for...which illegals do not)

To tranfer them out to a nursing home,so to speak.


4 posted on 01/03/2012 7:30:49 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Our policy should mirror Mexico’s, what do they do when foreigners are out of the emergency room?


5 posted on 01/03/2012 7:35:49 PM PST by omega4179 (We can't wait!............. for the end of an error.....1-20-13)
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To: moonshinner_09

Our policy should mirror Mexico’s, what do they do when foreigners are out of the emergency room?


6 posted on 01/03/2012 7:36:06 PM PST by omega4179 (We can't wait!............. for the end of an error.....1-20-13)
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To: moonshinner_09
Where Our Does Responsibility End?

Good question. And I still can't get over that so many people, (here and other countries) say they hate America. They are so ignorant.

7 posted on 01/03/2012 7:37:51 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (NOT VOTING gets 0bamao re-elected.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Where Our Does Responsibility End?

It never ends, due to the legions of hungry trial lawyers lurking about.

8 posted on 01/03/2012 7:38:11 PM PST by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: 2banana

the story says...because they are illegal immigrants or lack sufficient insurance or appropriate housing.


9 posted on 01/03/2012 7:39:36 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (NOT VOTING gets 0bamao re-elected.)
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To: moonshinner_09

The hospitals around here in Maryland don’t have any trouble tossing out legal Americans.

They could care less where you go.
It’s like the bartender that makes last call says. I don’t care where you go but you are leaving here.


10 posted on 01/03/2012 7:48:49 PM PST by Venturer
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To: moonshinner_09

NYT, the “Duty to Die” paper of record....


11 posted on 01/03/2012 7:53:36 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: 2banana
Illegals, sure. Also old people with no relatives. Mental incompetents. Etc.

I saw a show about emergency room patients in LA who had no place to go after they received care. Not necessarily illegals. The hospitals had vans that took them out and dumped them on the sidewalk in the horrible neighborhoods they were presumed to have come from to continue their bum/baglady lives until their next expensive trip to the emergency room. Much of this problem stems from alcohol use. And drugs. Some conceivably from undiagnosed strokes or brain injuries.

Whatever causes the problem, the problem remains. I don't have a clue how to solve it. Do you?

12 posted on 01/03/2012 7:54:48 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: moonshinner_09

probably ends sooner if you are an actual citizen


13 posted on 01/03/2012 7:58:55 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: omega4179

Last I read the Mexicans shoot the Guatamalan’s crossing the Southern Border into that country. I doubt they allow them into their hospitals. I understand too that most of those being smuggled by the Mexican Coyote’s (as the smugglers are called) into our country are from Guatamala as well.

Interestingly the vast majority of illegals around these parts that come through Mexico, and cross our borders illegally are actually Guatamalans, but they are refered to as Mexicans.


14 posted on 01/03/2012 8:02:32 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Rusty0604
When can we expect the NYT to start lobbying for “The Final Solution” to this problem? Oh, wait, the Death Panels are only for Americans who are born here and pay taxes here. Illegals are exempt. [Time to cull the unfit at the NYT?]
15 posted on 01/03/2012 8:20:24 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Veto!
LaRay Brown, of the city’s Health and Hospitals Corporation, was instrumental in the closing of HHC's Neponsit Health Care Center. The residents, many of whom suffered from dementia or Alzheimer's disease, were shuttled off to hospitals around the city in the middle of the night, where they languished in hallways.

HHC and then mayor, Rudy Giuliani, had grand plans to sell the oceanfront property and pocket the profits. Unfortunately, they were unable to because of a provision in the City Charter and the buildings that in 1998 were in "imminent danger of falling down" still stand strong today.

Maybe HHC should consider reopening the facility.

16 posted on 01/03/2012 8:26:07 PM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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To: moonshinner_09

Isn’t the proper term for these patients “UNITS”?


17 posted on 01/03/2012 8:33:46 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: moonshinner_09
As a result, hospitals are absorbing the bill for millions of dollars in unreimbursed expenses annually while the patients

No, hospitals are not absorbing the bill. TAXPAYERS are.

18 posted on 01/03/2012 8:57:49 PM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: moonshinner_09

The New York City Council is close to passing a city ordinance that will drastically hamper the activities of the Homeland Security Department’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), according to federal law enforcement officers and a non-profit public interest group’s latest report..

The ordinance will limit ICE agents in their role of identifying and removing illegal aliens from the city’s correctional system. If and when the ordinance is passed, New York will join a small list of large cities, including San Francisco, Washington, DC, Chicago, and San Jose, that deliberately obstruct ICE’s operations.

Even more troubling is the Obama Administration’s lack of resolve in making certain all states and cities comply with immigration laws and policies, a former New York City police official told the Law Enforcement Examiner.
http://www.examiner.com/law-enforcement-in-national/breaking-new-york-to-become-sanctuary-city-for-illegal-aliens

As long as we continue to allow illegals to manipulate and abuse our system, we’re the ones who will continue to be screwed.


19 posted on 01/03/2012 9:18:37 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: fightinJAG

EMTALA... they get reimbursed by the Feds for emergency care.


20 posted on 01/03/2012 11:18:37 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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