Skip to comments.Police kill armed 8th-grader in Texas school
Posted on 01/04/2012 1:40:07 PM PST by QT3.14
Police shot and killed an armed eighth-grader who "engaged" officers in the main hallway of his middle school on Wednesday, the South Texas school district said.
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Just darn. Why would a kid do that?
In reality, Brownsville is no longer Texas. Like much of the Rio Grande Valley, it’s now part of the lawless, liberal, third-world failed country known as Mexico.
That's the PC way of saying it's on the border of Mexico and that schools have had to close in the past because of gunfire from across the border hitting buildings and cars.
Wanna bet the kid was an anchor baby? Sad but kids do what they've learned.
It’s a violent and dramatic age (13-14) in a very stressful environment - and it’s a locale with a lot of drugs, guns, and gangs. There are also a lot of teenage boys on powerful, prescribed, psychotropic drugs. Could be anything from “suicide by cop” to a gang initiation that blew up to a PCP flip-out to a reaction to his “medication.”
Sympathies to the family and to the officers, and may he rest in peace.
Brownsville police Detective J.J. Trevino says police received a call around 8 a.m. Wednesday that there was an individual with a weapon at Cummings Middle School. Police found the student with a handgun in a hallway and shot him.
This eighth-grader stayed back once or twice, to be 15 and in Grade 8.
Update at 3:29 p.m. ET: Besides a gun, the eighth-grader had a knife and was involved in a fight before school began, a student tells the San Antonio News-Express. Police have still not identified the dead student or said whether he had fired at officers or what kind of gun he had.
Update at 1:09 p.m. ET: KXXV TV in Waco reports, without attribution, that police told the teenager to put his weapon down, but that the student did not comply. Police shot the boy three times, KXXV TV says.
Update at 12:56 p.m. ET: The 15-year-old student died after being taken to a local hospital, KGBT TV reports.
Update at 12:45 p.m. ET: A seventh-grade student who said he was two classrooms from where the shooting took place said the school was already on lockdown when he heard three shots, the Associated Press reports.
Many prayers to the cop that had to take this kid out. Suicide by cop is relatively common but it will haunt that cop for the rest of his life.
I am so sorry for the officer who had to make a quick decision that probably saved his life.
On the other hand, I am wondering if it is another non-American, getting numerous welfare handouts, who also hates this country.
Your reaction has been the best. This is a difficult age, and the kid in question (who was actually 15 and had been held back at least once) probably did have a lot of problems that had been ignored until things boiled over.
Very often when teenagers flip out, there have been prior problems and, in some cases, the parents have even been trying to get treatment for the kids. But because we have an insane mental health system, it’s virtually impossible to commit them or get them residential care now...until they kill somebody (or when it’s really too late and they kill themselves).
Standard age for 8th grade is 13 when the school year begins, usually 14, except those with July/Aug birthdays, by the end of the year. That makes a 15-year-old one year older than “base,” although there are more kids that age, especially boys, these days, because parents are using “transitional kindergarten” and other ways of having boys start first grade when they’re older. (This provides academic and especially sports advantage for the boys.)
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How terrible for all concerned-there are so many kids in recent years who have gone over the cliff that you have to think that parents really, really should be paying more attention to and spending more time with their kids-know what they do and who they see. It does sound like suicide by cop.
Sorry. I don't buy this. The kid had a knife and a gun and he didn't use either during this fight before school, but later he just walked the halls with them.
This is a crying shame. Too many kids think that guns are like they see on TV and in the movies. They think that the good guys only get knicked in the shoulder and the guys your shooting at can’t shoot straight.
Guns are serious. Pointing a gun at a cop is deadly.
Hispanic or Latino of any race in Brownsville makes up 93.19% of the population.
I have a teenage son with some psychological issues. He’s also insanely smart (except when compared to the next son, the space-alien), so he’s in 10th/11th grade at 15, depending on the subject ... and doesn’t go to school, thank God. All kinds of things can trigger an explosion in a less-stable teenage boy, and certainly there’s no difficulty for a boy in Brownsville in getting a gun.
It’s a very sad situation all around, and I’m just glad nobody else was killed or injured. It’s common for the teenage boys who blow up to take out a perceived enemy or a girl who ignored or broke up with them, before they’re stopped.
How do you know he did not go back home and get the weapons and came back looking for payback??
According to one of those nearby, only 3 rounds were heard. The kid fired 3 rounds at the cop?
Feel bad for the officer, but if the 15 year old had a gun at school and pointed it at an officer, he's a target.
Cummings Middle School is 98.7% Hispanic.
What are the odds it was a “gunwalker” gun?
I would guess the police fired 3 shots.
One boy said he heard police officers charge down the hallway and shout “put down the gun.” Then shots, three of them, most students said.
The officers shot and killed an eighth-grade student who pointed a handgun at them, Brownsville police detective J.J. Trevino told The Associated Press. The 15-year-old, whose name police and district officials didn’t immediately release, was taken to a local hospital and pronounced dead.
Investigators were trying to determine why the boy had the gun at school and whether he fired any shots, Trevino said.
BROWNSVILLE - A Brownsville middle school student is dead after he was shot by police in the hallway of Cummings Middle School on Wednesday. Investigators say the 15-year-old boy was armed and they were forced to open fire.
Officers say the 15-year-old student was pointing the gun as he walked along the hallways. Students heard police tell him to put down the weapon several times. We’re told he refused and authorities fired three times, hitting the teen in the chest.
“Officers immediately responded,” says BISD spokesperson Dru Brown.
“We all heard the gunshots,” says Cummings Middle School student Leo Hinojosa.
The victim was taken to Valley Baptist Medical Center in critical condition. Authorities confirmed he died at the hospital at 9:15 Wednesday morning.
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It’s possible he came from Mexico (ie was not born here nor was he a citizen) fairly recently, with his parents, and thus was behind. I had students when I taught in TX (8+ years ago now) who had come over as older children and were woefully behind, plus didn’t speak English. Just a thought.
Yep, according to that, and other reports, the kid never fired his weapon.
In the late 1970s, the 13 year old son of LBJ’s former press secretary took a gun to his junior high school in Austin and fatally shot his English teacher in front of 30 students.
The shooter was sent to a high price psychiatric hospital until he was 16 and is now an attorney in Austin.
And this map shows the sorry state of the RGV, a vast swath of Obama supporters, illegals and looting EBT types. I've been there and the Mexican flag is flown in more places than either the American or Texas flags. The reality is that Brownsville, Harligen, McAllen, Laredo and El Paso are Mexico...not Texas.
No problem, the government will now install metal detectors, scanners, armed guards who will search and have the kids sniffed by dogs before entering public school property.
He was surrounded. They couldn't have tried something just a little more sophisticated that yell "drop it" and then blow him away?
Hell why risk anything at all? Why not just evacuate the school and call in an airstrike?
But let's drop the pretense of cops having anything other than military training or intent.
Gang initiation? Scaring others into giving him money?
Likely he got into the fight, left the school, and returned with the weapons with the intent of getting revenge.
- Johnny Cash
“But let’s drop the pretense of cops having anything other than military training or intent.”
Having been an eyewitness to a similar situation (perp with a gun confronted by multiple cops) I can say the “drop the gun” is just a pro forma statement before the cops start blasting away. The kid had about a second to drop it before they started firing.
Boy throws rocks at cars, shot by crossbow
Officer Dino Delimitros says the boy and a friend were throwing rocks in the Linda Vista neighborhood Monday afternoon when a passenger in a black Toyota RAV4 pulled out a crossbow and fired.
The boy was shot in the abdomen and was taken to a hospital. The San Diego Union-Tribune newspaper says his injuries are not life-threatening.
His name and age weren't released.
Nobody has been arrested.
Just thought I'd share.
I barely remember hearing anything like that, but before ever-present cameras and cell phones, enough money could shut things like that up and whisk them under the radar. Several of my family members are reluctant residents of Austin due to their jobs-nothi8ng in Austin surprises...
Without going to the SeeBS website, let me make a guess: the eighth grader was 14-15 years old, adult sized and raised in the thug culture.
I bet it was one of Eric Holder’s “Fast and Furious” handguns! Next kid will probably bring an AK to hose them down.
If the kid had the gun in a position to fire, should he have been allowed to shoot first?.....Just asking since the article never said.
Only a fool doesn’t shoot to kill the instant someone points a gun at them.
They went to the school, searched the halls and came across this kid with a hand gun.
The reports I have heard say that they instructed him clearly to put the wepaon down, but that he did not and instead, that he pointed the weapon at them.
In that case, the officers did exactly as they should. You do not wait for someone to bring the gun all the way up and squeeze off a round or more at you and your fellow officers.
Deadly intent is presumed when someone begins to raise a firearm and point it at you. To do otherwise means you might be the one who gets shot.
If this is the case, the police acted appropriately and tragically, the young man was killed. But he was the one in the wrong and representing a deadly threat to others. IMHO, it would have been more tragic for a policee officer, perhaps with wife and kids to be killed, or another innocent student to be killed.
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