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Iowa ethanol industry celebrates Romney-Santorum
Washington Examiner ^ | January 4, 2012 | Timothy P. Carney

Posted on 01/05/2012 1:35:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: DoughtyOne
Here's a candidate that so closely agrees with us on home schooling, that he has his kids enrolled in a program.

Gov. Perry Encourages Home School Families [Address to Texas Home School Association]

Note post #3.

121 posted on 01/05/2012 12:23:40 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
TX did this because of the failure of the feds to deal with illegals, TX was stuck with them and they made lemonade out of lemons.

And yet, instead of blaming the feds and burdening their citizens even further, states like Arizona and Alabama stood up for their sovereignty, with already decreasing numbers of illegals.

Perry is nothing but excuses and blame.

Oh, and btw, those illegals who are receiving in-state breaks are also eligible for STATE AID. Would you care to define what state aid is and who, essentially, pays for it?

122 posted on 01/05/2012 12:29:23 PM PST by rintense
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To: rintense

For lurkers, here’s how Texas Grants works. The difference for illegals is that to qualify to be a Texas Resident, they must attend Texas High Schools 3 years in a row:

For an initial award:

Are Texas residents
Have not been convicted of a felony or crime involving a controlled substance
Show financial need
Have an EFC less than or equal to 4000
Register for the Selective Service or are exempt from this requirement
AND

Be a graduate of an accredited high school in Texas not earlier than the 1998-99 school year
Complete the Recommended High School Program or Distinguished Achievement Program in high school
Enroll in a non-profit public college or university in Texas within 16 months of graduation from a public or accredited private high school in Texas and
Have accumulated no more than 30 semester credit hours, excluding those earned for dual or concurrent courses or awarded for credit by examination (AP, IB or CLEP).


123 posted on 01/05/2012 12:44:35 PM PST by magritte
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To: magritte
And are eligible for state aid.

As another Texas lawmaker said:

“I believe that taxpayer-funded grants should be reserved solely for legal residents of this state,” said state Sen. Brian Birdwell, R-Granbury, a Tea Party conservative who serves as vice chairman of the Senate Higher Education Committee. “In a time when our state budget is tightly constrained and legal residents are already paying record-high tuition rates, I think that these taxpayer dollars should be directed toward our citizens, not illegal immigrants and the incentivization of unlawful conduct.”

So Texas taxpayers are paying for this, period.

124 posted on 01/05/2012 12:54:13 PM PST by rintense
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To: rintense

Of course they are. That’s the LAW in Texas, voted by the people’s representatives in Legislature and signed by the elected Governor. Texas wants this. If they don’t want it, then Legislators will pass a law, the Governor will sign it, and it won’t be law.

If this Birdwell fellow is so gung-ho, let him pass some legislation instead of just yakity-yak. Talk is cheap.


125 posted on 01/05/2012 1:00:31 PM PST by magritte
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh, so Perry home schooled his kids? I didn’t know that.

/s


126 posted on 01/05/2012 1:01:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: DoughtyOne

No, I don’t.

Perhaps I was endulging in a little fantasy.

Is Rick S. your candidate then?


127 posted on 01/05/2012 1:06:39 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: magritte

That’s a pretty high standard and people who object to this had better be really careful.

As to illegal aliens or rather the US born childen of illegal aliens, it is a federal law that they are eligible for benefits, mostly food stamps and medicaid.

It’s beyond pathetic to say or imply that this is Rick Perry’s doing.

Actually most of Mexican illegals work. Statistics show that those receiving benefits do so because they work in low-paying jobs,usually manual labor and their incomes are so low they qualify for these benefits.


128 posted on 01/05/2012 1:12:27 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: DoughtyOne

Oh, c’mon.

Home schooled kids? Nice if you have the money for the wife to stay home and do it and if you feel that your children are not getting a good education or are subjected to really bad influences.

It’s not for everyone, or very many people. I certainly didn’t do it and I doubt seriously if you did.

But Perry does support school choice and vouchers.


129 posted on 01/05/2012 1:15:59 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura

Actually, I’m not a die hard Santorum supporter. It’s become rather a default position at this point.

Romney? No
Newt? No
Perry? No
Ron Paul? (hell) No

I think my tagline expresses it about right.

I will try to defend the guy against gotcha attacks.


130 posted on 01/05/2012 1:17:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Dittos!


131 posted on 01/05/2012 1:21:32 PM PST by rintense
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s a sad thing but I think many are in your position.

It’s the which candidate that I hate the least thing.

Unfortunately, the more you learn about Rick S., as you will in the next week or so, you may start hating him also.

I feel good that I have a candidate I respect and can support wholeheartedly.


132 posted on 01/05/2012 1:22:04 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: rintense

;^)


133 posted on 01/05/2012 1:23:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: altura

Clearly, to get a Texas Grant you have to be a pretty decent student, plus they review the grant annually. If it works for Texas, it’s their business to take care of it.

10th Amendment, and all that.


134 posted on 01/05/2012 1:28:06 PM PST by magritte
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To: DoughtyOne

You’re in a bad position there, Buddy.

I would be inclined to defend Santorum against gotcha stuff also, but who defended Newt?

Who defended Perry?

Who defended Palin?

Who defended Cain (well a lot of people tried but he couldn’t defend himself)

The point is, it’s gonna be up to the candidate to defend himself and do it effectively and forcefully.

Forceful is not a word I associate with Rick S. He needs to take off the Mr. Rogers sweaters and put on some boxing gloves.


135 posted on 01/05/2012 1:28:25 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura
It’s a sad thing but I think many are in your position.  It’s the which candidate that I hate the least thing.

Altura, why is it that folks who support someone, jump to the conclusion that someone else must hate their candidate, if they don't support them.

I don't hate the candidates I'm not supporting.  Each of them has done some things that disqualify them for my support.  Each of them has probably done some good things too.

I don't support them for the presidency, but I do wish them well in their private endeavors.

Unfortunately, the more you learn about Rick S., as you will in the next week or so, you may start hating him also.

So you're telling me that you are aware of plans to reveal things about Rick Santorum over the next week or so?  If these are important matters, why wait?  I'm willing to assess anything mentioned about Rick Santorum, and am also willing to withdraw support as is fitting should something negative arise and warrant it.

I feel good that I have a candidate I respect and can support wholeheartedly.


I too am glad you have a candidate you can respect and support wholeheartedly.  I am not able to support that person.  I do not respect them.

That does not mean that I hate them, or wish anything ill to happen to them.  When it comes to the presidency, no thank you.

136 posted on 01/05/2012 1:37:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: altura
You’re in a bad position there, Buddy.  Oh really?  Lets see.

I would be inclined to defend Santorum against gotcha stuff also, but who defended Newt?  You didn't see anyone defending Newt here?  Really?  Do you know who Jim Robinson is?

Who defended Perry?  You haven't seen anyone defending Perry either?  Wow.  I also find this rather comical, because Perry's 'tools' have been dishing dirt on just about everyone.

Who defended Palin?  You honestly didn't see anyone defending Palin here?  Really?

Who defended Cain (well a lot of people tried but he couldn’t defend himself)  I saw a lot of folks defending Cain here.  So did you.

The point is, it’s gonna be up to the candidate to defend himself and do it effectively and forcefully.  Have you watched any of the debates?  About the only way I can describe Perry's debating style, is to call it the 'Utilization of Political Suicide Method' of winning over supporters.  There's no way I want to watch this guy debate Obama, on my behalf.

Forceful is not a word I associate with Rick S. He needs to take off the Mr. Rogers sweaters and put on some boxing gloves.  And this from a person who must support Rick Perry's antics on the debate stage.

Seriously Altura, give it a rest.



137 posted on 01/05/2012 1:47:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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To: DoughtyOne

138 posted on 01/05/2012 4:25:38 PM PST by rintense
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To: rintense

Aw..., shucks...

;^)


139 posted on 01/06/2012 2:26:01 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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