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To: txhurl
What we REALLY need to be worrying about is how to split up Paul’s base.

I don't think his base is real.

In polls, his base is a bunch of spam monkeys.

In Iowa and soon to be other primaries/caucuses, his base is cross-over liberal voters.

My theory: His numbers are fake.

31 posted on 01/05/2012 11:51:15 AM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: humblegunner

I’ve always felt his numbers were jazzed, finessed, cooked, too, guess we’ll see what SC does with him.

I’m not seeing anywhere near as many Paul bumper stickers or volunteer HQ signs as ‘08 (Austin).


43 posted on 01/05/2012 12:07:19 PM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: humblegunner
My theory: His numbers are fake.

HG goes to the head of the class. Unfortunately, Santorum's numbers are equally as fake....

97 posted on 01/05/2012 1:50:29 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: humblegunner; txhurl; ScreamingFist
Regarding post #31, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Unlike the other candidates, Paul rallies draw crowds in the thousands. And we're talking about enthusiastic, passionate and excited crowds. Even in a little state like Iowa. I don't know about you, but I have't seen that enthusiasm for Romney or Santorum rallies.

Also, his fund raising - unlike Romney's, from small individual donations is phenomenal. He's at $13M for Q4... far above most of the other candidates, with the exception of Establishment boy Romney.

Also just take a look at the online discussion forums of the candidates. I'm not saying that's proof because obviously not everyone regularly uses the internet, but if you compare Mitt Romney's forums (I see 2 users online there right now) or any of the other candidates, to Ron Paul's forums, it's like night and day. No contest.

115 posted on 01/05/2012 2:32:09 PM PST by incindiary (http://youtu.be/BkpnhCkLK-M)
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To: humblegunner
In Iowa and soon to be other primaries/caucuses, his [RP's] base is cross-over liberal voters.

Judging from watching Facebook traffic, i agree. The young 20-somethings who listen to their professors have been brainwashed. Reading some of their comments just saddens me. Many of them are conservatives and don't even realize it yet. If things continue as they are, they'll never get the chance to find out until they wake up and find themselves in the 2nd Revolution. :/

148 posted on 01/05/2012 2:52:49 PM PST by naxetevitan
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To: humblegunner

You may very well be right about Paul’s numbers being fake and computer generated and if so we can discount him and most of his numbers? What % would you think were actual?

If we tally all “actual” but Romney’s count then we can present all of that as anti Romney and present Santorum as a real win. The more this is done in commentary to the media the more the message gets out. If this becomes a general response across the net we’ve just ‘meme’d Romney to the 2nd place. We can all do this easily as we browse the net and media websites this week.

We just need to get a wordsmith to get the gist down so we all pretty much type the same meme to be.


258 posted on 01/05/2012 4:19:53 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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To: humblegunner

In my opinion Paul’s base is a lot closer to the Occupy folks than the Tea Party folks. In fact a lot of Paul’s base might be Occupy folks.


514 posted on 01/05/2012 10:15:21 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: humblegunner
I don't think his base is real.

Paul's base is real and we're fired up in every state. Palin is right about not alienating us. I could vote for Santorum because he is truly pro-life and I could vote third party against Romney because I can't decide whether he is worse than Obama. I don't think Paul is going to win but it will be interesting to see what he does at the convention. KY's primary is late so if it looks like Romney is going to lose, I will surely vote for Paul. Get rid of Romney folks and don't worry about Dr. Paul.

624 posted on 01/06/2012 3:27:29 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: humblegunner
What we REALLY need to be worrying about is how to split up Paul’s base. I don't think his base is real. In polls, his base is a bunch of spam monkeys. In Iowa and soon to be other primaries/caucuses, his base is cross-over liberal voters.

My theory: His numbers are fake.

I have felt that all along. It made me think of Rush telling listeners to cross over in the primaries and vote for Hillary.

They are a bunch of Obots trying to skew the Republican ticket!

714 posted on 01/07/2012 5:35:03 PM PST by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: humblegunner
In Iowa and soon to be other primaries/caucuses, his base is cross-over liberal voters.

Nailed it. They outed that analytic on Charlie Rose Tuesday night, that Paul led the NH crossover indie/Dems.

The only county Paul won, was Coos County up in the north end of NH, sparsely populated with fewer crossovers, but those people are Old School 1920's Republicans, Cal Coolidge type people. Paleocons and isolationists. The rest of the State tumbled for Willard and what one FReeper called "his latex rictus" (death-mask grin).

South Carolina has got a lot of straightening-out to do. That's why Gov. DeMint, who endorsed Romney in 2008, jumped out in front and endorsed him again. And people kept telling us how conservative DeMint is.

Santorum/Gingrich. We need Gingrich for VP nominee, to free him up as the heavy who punches out the other ticket like Razor Ruddock -- the role Bob Dole had in 1976.

Santorum for policy, Gingrich for the slugfest.

(Side note: I'd like to see Dingy Harry's face, when Newt ascends the VP's chair.)

761 posted on 01/11/2012 11:30:00 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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