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Royal Navy sends its mightiest ship to take on the Iranian show of force in the Gulf
the telegraph ^ | 6th January, 2012 | unknown

Posted on 01/06/2012 4:08:44 PM PST by yank in the UK

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To: yarddog

Royal Oak?


41 posted on 01/06/2012 5:59:56 PM PST by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: yarddog
I am pretty sure a U-Boat sank a British battleship in Scapa Flow.

The Royal Oak, by U-47, on 14 Octobere, 1939.

42 posted on 01/06/2012 6:00:01 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik
HMS was actually hit twice. And unlike the Hood, which was 22 years old and in dire need of a refit and upgrade, HMS Daring is brand new.
And yes, only 3 crewmen of HMS Hood survived. Naming a battlecruiser after an admiral who died, when his battlecruiser was sunk at Jutland was inauspicious, only slightly less so than naming said battlecruiser "Invincible."
43 posted on 01/06/2012 6:00:08 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: piytar
I'm sure it has some impressive capabilities but..where are the carriers...the battleships...the cruisers...y'know, The Navy.

Will this be us in ten years?

44 posted on 01/06/2012 6:16:04 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: okie01; Dilbert56

Yes, that has to have been one of the greatest military exploits of all time even if he was a German. To top it all off, he escaped afterwards.


45 posted on 01/06/2012 6:18:42 PM PST by yarddog
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To: rmlew

I saw your tagline: “Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.”

Your part about minerats and bayonets leads me to this short story:

I picked up a great knife from Pakistan a few weeks ago, and I was surprised by the workmanship. The edge was honed well, the steel was annealed properly and the weight was great. I consider it close in workmanship and quality to the Texas Bowie knife.

There’s a few pits in the steel toward the hilt, but I figure the blacksmith was in a hurry to avoid detection.(He’s probably firing gun barrels, too.) Nonetheless, I’m noticing some great quality knives coming out of Pakistan. These boys know what they’re doing.


46 posted on 01/06/2012 6:25:45 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: yank in the UK

A modern Destroyer is hardly the same as a “tin can” from WW2. They are bigger than ships previously classified as cruisers and have extensive capabilities. Still, to be impressive show of force, you need more than just one. A battle group that can defend itself against anything the Iranians can throw at it and then rain destruction on them at will would be better.


47 posted on 01/06/2012 6:33:48 PM PST by yawningotter
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48 posted on 01/06/2012 6:35:11 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Menehune56

Eurofighter Typhoon.


49 posted on 01/06/2012 6:38:58 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: yank in the UK
Good afternoon.

Doesn't the Royal Navy have SSBNs? With Trident missiles?

5.56mm

50 posted on 01/06/2012 6:46:22 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: sergeantdave

What about Dearborn, Mich.?


51 posted on 01/06/2012 6:52:08 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Menehune56
Is that a JAS-39 Gripen off the stern?

Twin engines, canards ahead of cockpit: Eurofighter Typhoon

52 posted on 01/06/2012 7:10:10 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Whatever happened to that Amy Summerland sailing chick?)
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To: sergeantdave
“Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers” is a quote from Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan of the AKP. We aren't taking Pakistan, but a NATO country trying to enter Europe. And it is the EU push that has been the problem. The quote is from a poem, for which Erdogan was jailed in the past. However, the EU and the US pushed for democratizing reforms in Turkey, suppressing the power of the military and of the courts to militantly defend the secular regime.

I hope you enjoy your knife, but I don't find the martial skills of the increasingly Islamist and nuclear armed Pakistan reassuring.

53 posted on 01/06/2012 7:22:25 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

Actually this is a photo of the H.M.S Barham torpedoed off the coast of Egypt in Nov. of 1941 by the U-331 commanded by one capt. Freiherr von Tiesenhausen. The ship listed to starboard a few minutes after being hit and the main magazine blew up taking a lot of her crew with her. Poor blighters.


54 posted on 01/06/2012 7:24:11 PM PST by jmacusa
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To: hinckley buzzard; wally_bert; yarddog; central_va; Leaning Right; GenXteacher

This ship is NOT the largest in the Royal Navy, it is simply the most advanced. Britain still has an aircraft carrier, with two more currently being built.

Britain was still last year able to send a sizeable naval task force to the Libyan coast, and in fact did NOT deploy most of ‘Task Force Cougar’. Tales of the Royal Navy’s and Britain’s death, to paraphrase your great Mr Twain, have been exaggerated.


55 posted on 01/06/2012 7:33:19 PM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: rmlew
Naming a battlecruiser after an admiral who died, when his battlecruiser was sunk at Jutland was inauspicious

HMS Hood was laid down before Jutland, and named after Samuel Hood, 1st Viscount Hood (1724-1816) one of the Royal Navy's best Admirals during the Napoleonic Wars and the earlier American colony unpleasantness. He correctly called Comte De Grasse's intentions before Fort Royal and if he had been the ranking admiral in the Americas, you might be drinking tea and eating kippers to this day.

Jutland's Hood was his descendant.

56 posted on 01/06/2012 7:42:48 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Whatever happened to that Amy Summerland sailing chick?)
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To: the scotsman

I have always been a fan of the United Kingdom. That is why it bothers me so much to see the clear decline.

Yes they are still a good ally and a bad enemy but will probably never be a world power again.

I am sure I read somewhere that the UK used up nearly all their ordinance of some types during that ill advised conflict. I can’t really criticize Britannia too much tho as we were involved too.


57 posted on 01/06/2012 7:44:56 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Oztrich Boy

That’ll teach me to take at face value anything shown on the Military Channel.


58 posted on 01/06/2012 7:49:30 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Bender2; jmacusa

Thanks for the clarification. Prayers up for those who met such a terrible end in service to their country, regardless of the vessel they served on.


59 posted on 01/06/2012 7:56:20 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Ron Paul and Barack Obama’s vision for us.


60 posted on 01/06/2012 7:58:45 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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