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Fat lady all set to sing (Union thugs close to killing NYC Opera company...)
NY Post ^ | 1/9/12 | JOSE MARTINEZ

Posted on 01/09/2012 4:55:07 AM PST by jimbo123

It may be curtains for the New York City Opera.

The broke opera company, which is entangled in a bitter contract dispute with two unions, says it plans to lock out its musicians today, throwing the future of the company into doubt.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cityopera; music; newyorkcityopera; ny; nycopera; opera; unions
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To: jimbo123

I have a friend who is a member of the troupe. He’s on the union side and, I fear, soon to be unemployed. He doesn’t like the way the City Opera is planning its season and, of course, blames the Koch Brothers.

I prefer the Met to the City Opera but would hate to lose it!!


21 posted on 01/09/2012 6:44:28 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Dr. Thorne

I wonder what David Koch is saying and thinking about this. I’m sure he’s on the Board.


22 posted on 01/09/2012 6:49:50 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Union leftists play the zero sum game of class warfare. Any enterprise they control is bound for failure. It’s nice to see them run their fellow leftists into the unemployment line and their customers out of their theater seats. In the past, enough people got tired of it and rejected the “high moral ground” of radical union leaders and their greed.

We should not fund the Left’s arts at the Federal level. The charity of wealthy leftists should fund their own propaganda. If they are busy funding the arts; they have less time and money to build and fund the Marxist wing of the DNC.


23 posted on 01/09/2012 6:52:27 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

David Koch, hardly a leftist radical, donated $100,000,000 to the State Theatre (the home of the City Opera and City Ballet.) He was responsible for its renovation. The building is now called The David A. Koch Theatre. He and his brother are major patrons of the arts. It’s good to see wealthy conservatives helping to preserve the arts rather than running from it as if it was a gift from the devil.

Until the arts community cleans up it’s act, I’m not for federal funding either. I support it through charitable donations and the “bums in seats” method.


24 posted on 01/09/2012 6:57:36 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Dr. Thorne

“New York City Opera Locks Out Singers as Director Turns to Rock and Roll”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-08/new-york-city-opera-locks-out-singers-musicians-imperiling-2012-season.html


25 posted on 01/09/2012 7:30:22 AM PST by wolficatZ (:"TV is king, you're my everything..")
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To: miss marmelstein

That is good. All the billionaires should invest their money in your theaters instead of buying corporate pork and fascist power from political parties and politicans.

They should donate to shelters for the homeless the banksters and politicans schemed to displace, too.


26 posted on 01/09/2012 7:39:41 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: jimbo123

They can all get jobs over at the new york times.


27 posted on 01/09/2012 7:58:22 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Dr. Thorne

I went to CityOpera during the 80’s and into the 90’s, and you are right about Sills. I didn’t mind the acoustics, though, and in some cases I thought the productions were better than the MET.

You are also right about the sodomites. They destroy organizations through their narcissism and favoritism (usually using their positions to get sexual favors or to settle scores).


28 posted on 01/09/2012 8:05:14 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: jimbo123

So, the “patrons of the arts” haven’t stepped in to bail ‘em out? They’ll be whining for federal dollars (yours and mine, folks) soon enough.


29 posted on 01/09/2012 9:21:48 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Fiji Hill
When the strike was finally settled, many instrumentalists found themselves out of a career because the record-buying public's tastes had changed. Vocalists and small combos were now in vogue, and the big bands were now passé.

In addition to opera, I am also a big Sinatra fan. I've read about how his early recordings with Columbia were a capella because of the recording ban. People used to try to blame the end of the big band era on the popularity of the vocalists-particularly Sinatra. Sure, the vocalists were becoming popular. But, it is as you have said: the musicians did it to themselves.

30 posted on 01/09/2012 10:07:29 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

So singing is the one form of human endeavor that doesn’t benefit from training eh?


31 posted on 01/09/2012 3:07:46 PM PST by Borges
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To: .30Carbine; 1cewolf; 1rudeboy; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 31R1O; ADemocratNoMore; afraidfortherepublic; ...

Classical Ping.


32 posted on 01/09/2012 3:10:16 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

Where’d you get that idea?


33 posted on 01/09/2012 3:26:19 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Fiji Hill
If you're a fan of the Big Band era, you can thank the musician's union for playing a major role in killing the big bands.

I love that Big Band sound, more proof that unions suck.

34 posted on 01/09/2012 3:30:28 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

You said the highly trained human voice is a terrible sound. Presumably less training would be better.


35 posted on 01/09/2012 3:36:42 PM PST by Borges
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; Borges

Chacun á son goût.

I find a well trained operatic voice to be one of the most thrilling sounds produced by a living creature.

Have you ever heard Kirsten Flagstad as “Isolde” or Fritz Wunderlich performing Schumann’s “Dicherliebe”.

Performances such as those make me feel as if I have died and gone to heaven.


36 posted on 01/09/2012 5:12:31 PM PST by randita
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To: randita
Have you ever heard Kirsten Flagstad as “Isolde” or Fritz Wunderlich performing Schumann’s “Dicherliebe”.

No, but I've heard a Ferrari Formula One engine turning 19,000 RPM.

There is no sweeter sound .

37 posted on 01/09/2012 9:12:25 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Borges
Presumably less training would be better.

Absolutely!

See: Famous Gospel Singers/Top Soul Singers

38 posted on 01/09/2012 9:17:11 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

They wouldn’t be able to hit the notes that opera singers routinely hit and certainly not do it as expressively.


39 posted on 01/10/2012 7:33:04 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
certainly not do it as expressively.

HA! Are you kidding?

Those over-trained prima-donnas are about as expressive as a player piano. They couldn't improv their way out of a wet paper bag.

40 posted on 01/11/2012 5:51:50 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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