Gulf Coast working to fill a fuel void in Northeast

Fuel Fix ^ | January 9, 2012 | Simone Sebastian

[thackney]

When the switch was made at Pine Bend, it took about 15 seconds to decide to make 100 percent low sulfur.

That sounds bizarre. They had desulfurization capacity they were not using?

I suspect there was a couple years work prior to the switch from planing, buy and installing equipment.

[thackney]

In 2006, the refinery completed a $350 million project to produce ultra low-sulfur diesel fuels and convert diesel fuel to gasoline to meet growing market demand.

http://www.fhr.com/refining/minnesota.aspx

[Eric in the Ozarks]

No.
Once the decision to go low sulfur, the design was made for the refinery's max production. I recall the only Midwest refinery to make both products for any length of time was Mandan.

[thackney]

I found a little more detail.

One of the largest projects in refi nery history was completed in May when Pine Bend’s new hydrocracker unit was brought online. This $350 million project includes the new hydrocracker, new hydrogen plant, storage tanks and expanded cooling water capacity. The project was built so that the refi nery can begin producing ultra low sulfur diesel fuel.

http://www.fhr.com/upload/PBCommmattersnl10-06.pdf
Page 2

Construction on the hydrocracker project began in May of 2004.
Here are some interesting facts from the two-year project:
• 1,600 tons of structural steel
• 22 miles of large piping
• 5,109 valves
• 4,548 gaskets
• 29,260 bolts
• 26,355 components
• 353,850 pounds of cracking catalyst
• 1.4 million work hours on fi eld construction
• Peak workforce of 780 contractors
• Two large reactors, each weighing
approximately 1.5 million pounds

[dools0007world]

Profit, as a component in a supply and demand economy, is not an issue with me. I do have a problem being raped by any collusive industry whose members produce annual reports—supposedly public documents) that are deliberately misleading.

For instance, I Googled a simple question: What is Exxon-Mobile Petroleum Refining income? I could not find an answer anywhere no matter how many ways I asked the question. Don’t pretend to be anything but a novice at reading annual reports or dealing with financial info. If that number was in the company’s annual report I could not find it.

I was able to find a summary of branded refinery cost for Dec 2011 to Jan 2012. 23 and 31 cents on the dollar, respectively. I presume costs encompass all categories of doing business—including gov’t. environmental and safety requirements. In the absense of any other info and by extension, it appears to me like the industry increased its petroleum refinery profitability over the course of that year. Realizing a net profit of better 60 cents/$ seems like a damn good business to me. To the industry’s credit it did this with existing capacity.

My problem with the oil industry and the government is they lie through their teeth. I remember interviewing a Houston-based oil company back in the 70s—about the time of the Carter debacle. One of the people in the room tried to make the argument gas should cost 5$/gal because a gal. of gas could move a 5,000 lb. car 15 miles or some such. Had nothing to do with the quaint concept of “reasonable profit”, supply/demand or any other rational barometer.

It became clear to me at the time (I interviewed most of the major oil companies) that these companies were no more American than Bic pen or Mercedes Benz. And they lie and/or mislead.

As for collusion, the evidence is at the pump. There is simply no credible way three or four different companies, headquartered, producing and shipping from around the country (let alone the globe) can consistently post the exact same price on any given day.

You seem to be a smart fella. Is there a place I can go that breaks down the refinery dollar by relevant costs and profit? I spent an hour looking and was not successful finding it.

I’m not trying to be a wiseguy. I would love to be repudiated. But it’s obvious I’ve arrived at a point where I should be better educated than I am about how the oil industry works and accounts for itself. Empirical evidence only goes so far.

Thank you in advance for a constructive reply.

[thackney]

What is Exxon-Mobile Petroleum Refining income?

ExxonMobil’s Refining Income is listed as the downstream portion of their annual report. Upstream is the crude production, downstream is the refining, chemical is listed separately.

Bottom of Page 27.
http://thomson.mobular.net/thomson/7/3095/4222/document_0/XOM_SAR09.pdf

[dools0007world]

Thanks. I appreciate it. I saw it in the report but obviously didn’t know what it meant. But it makes my point about about annual reports. You must know the secret handshakes and euphemisms employed to make any sense of them. Oh, but that’s why we have the “expert” class, isn’t it?

[FatherofFive]

Yep, isn’t that something, a pipeline from here to the northeast is good, but a pipeline from Canada to here is bad.

Facts and logic tend to confuse liberals. They prefer feelings and opinions.