If its legal and your competitors do it, you almost have to to survive. I agree with the argument that it (buying influence) should not be allowed, but if is allowed, you do what you have to do to stay competitive.
I find the current arguments by some candidates that so-and-so (almost always Romney, since he's the front runner) is exclusively involved in this stuff, ridiculous and distasteful.
It amounts to class warfare, and it will come back to bite us hard in the run-up to the general when the Democrats put the quotes back in the mouths of the people who said it against whomever gets the nod.
I was listening to the Laura Ingraham Show this afternoon, and she was interviewing Rick Perry. It was a pretty friendly interview, but at one point, she mentioned that he'd been the recipient of millions of dollars in campaign money from the same kind of venture capitalist firms that Romney ran. I didn't actually hear all of his response, but he was having trouble defending himself.
And then I read the interview with Newt Gingrich taking about not being able to afford a vacation home in New Hampshire because he's not rich. First, he's worth about 6 million dollars by most estimates. Second, he has previously had a half-million dollar line of credit at Tiffany. He could or should be able to afford a vacation home in New Hampshire.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2828830/posts
And third, I know many people who have vacation homes in nice places. We have several in our extended family. A hunting cabin, a home in a ski resort town, and a lake house among them. We're not rich people, but we have a family of very hard working people. The attitude that only rich people have vacation homes is silly. My uncle, a veteran, worked hard every day of his life to buy a hunting cabin and would not appreciate being told he is elite. He's the child of farmers and miners.
Is this the sort of message we want to send to people like my uncle?
And honestly, Romney has a giant target on his back of his own making with all the moronic, nasty, stupid, dishonest things he's done over the years. There should be no reason to engage in class warfare when you're talking about a duplicitous weasel like Mitt Romney.
“Agreed, but once they are available, shouldn’t everyone who can take advantage of them do so? And as long as it is legal, is it wrong to do so if your competitors do?”
I don’t agree with that at all. Their are lots of businesses that play fair and play by the rules and are very successful.
What makes u think this is legal? All of these folks should be in jail, that’s the point. What Bain captial, Mitt Romney and the politicians are doing is called “graft”. Everyone of them should be in prison, the politicans for taking bribes and the beloved capatialist for supplying the money to buy the favors.
Why do u think people are so upset? Because of crony captialism.....! And then people like Rush Limbaugh goes on radio for three hrs. everyday and defends this stuff and calls it free enterprise. Rush is an idiot.
“If its legal and your competitors do it, you almost have to to survive. I agree with the argument that it (buying influence) should not be allowed, but if is allowed, you do what you have to do to stay competitive.”
IT NOT ALLOWED, ITS CALLED CORRUPTION, CORNY CAPTIALISM IS CORRUPTION AND ILLIEGAL. We just have a bunch of crooks in office who write the rules and that’s what keeps them out of jail. That doesn’t make it right or leagal. It is sickening to watch conservative icons and conservative media defend this marxist crap and call it free enterprisr.
I find the current arguments by some candidates that so-and-so (almost always Romney, since he’s the front runner) is exclusively involved in this stuff, ridiculous and distasteful.
Romny isn’t the only one involved but he is running for president. I will do all I can to derail this marxist scumbag from getting into office. Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and even Rush Limbaugh are involved. All of them are using their power and money to protect and promote crony captialism. Don’t believe me go to Rush’s website. There’s more marxist propaganda there than you would find at PRAVDA....! You have to be marxist in ur thinking to defend, protect, and promote Bain captial, Mitt Romney, and crony captialism.
“It amounts to class warfare, and it will come back to bite us hard in the run-up to the general when the Democrats put the quotes back in the mouths of the people who said it against whomever gets the nod.”
Nice try but that dog want hunt....! It “ain’t class warfare, its crony captialism.” Its already biten us in the butt. Conservatives have alrady surrendered their principles and started promoting, protecting, and defending crony captialism in the form and persons of Bain Captial and Mitt Romney. Welcome to crony captialism, the new free enterprise.
“I was listening to the Laura Ingraham Show this afternoon, and she was interviewing Rick Perry. It was a pretty friendly interview, but at one point, she mentioned that he’d been the recipient of millions of dollars in campaign money from the same kind of venture capitalist firms that Romney ran. I didn’t actually hear all of his response, but he was having trouble defending himself.”
I bet he was. He’ll get NO sympathy from me.
And then I read the interview with Newt Gingrich taking about not being able to afford a vacation home in New Hampshire because he’s not rich. First, he’s worth about 6 million dollars by most estimates. Second, he has previously had a half-million dollar line of credit at Tiffany. He could or should be able to afford a vacation home in New Hampshire.
I could care less about his wealth. I’m just not into “class warfare”, I’m into fighting people who go around defending crony captialism and then having the gumption to call it free enterprise.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2828830/posts
And third, I know many people who have vacation homes in nice places. We have several in our extended family. A hunting cabin, a home in a ski resort town, and a lake house among them. We’re not rich people, but we have a family of very hard working people. The attitude that only rich people have vacation homes is silly. My uncle, a veteran, worked hard every day of his life to buy a hunting cabin and would not appreciate being told he is elite. He’s the child of farmers and miners.
I’m glad u guys can afford such things, more power to ya..! I don’t care about ur wealth and what u own that’s none of my business. What is my business is when company’s and politicans like Mitt Romney and Bain Captial can run to the halls of congress with cases full of money and buy special favors. That’s corny captialism and thats the war I’m fighting.
Is this the sort of message we want to send to people like my uncle?
The only message I’ll send to ur uncle is to vote for someone other that a marxist and a crony captialist like Mitt Romney.
And honestly, Romney has a giant target on his back of his own making with all the moronic, nasty, stupid, dishonest things he’s done over the years. There should be no reason to engage in class warfare when you’re talking about a duplicitous weasel like Mitt Romney.
We do agree on one thing. Romney and his minions in conservative media are weasels. And, as I said, it “ain’t” class warfare, its a war against crony captialism.