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To: Allon
If want to give your man a pass on his ISM, perhaps you could/would/should explain how MormonISM rectifies the following teaching with what Milt the liar tried to pass off as his 'christian' credentials? ...

"We may talk of men being redeemed by the efficacy of his [Christ's] blood; but the truth is that that blood has no efficacy to wash away our sins. That must depend upon our own action." [ LDS Apostle Amasa M. Lyman, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 299, 1859]

2 posted on 01/14/2012 8:10:08 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

FIrst, he’s not my man, my man was canned by the media. Second, I’m pointing out that the religion factor seems less formidable in SC where I, and I’m guessing you, thought it would be impossible for him to overcome.

Time to step it up in other areas.


8 posted on 01/14/2012 8:13:41 AM PST by Allon (Since 1980, no Republican has won his party's nomination without winning in South Carolina.)
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To: MHGinTN
"It is true that the blood of the Son of God was shed for sins through the fall and those committed by men, yet men can commit sins which it can never remit.... There are sins that can be atoned for by an offering upon an altar, as in ancient days; and there are sins that the blood of a lamb, or a calf, or of turtle dove, cannot remit, but they must be atoned for by the blood of the man." (Sermon by Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, pages 53-54); also published in the Mormon Church's Deseret News, 1856, page 235)

On another occasion Brigham Young made this chilling statement regarding a person's obligation to spill the blood of those who committed serious sins:

"Now take a person in this congregation who has knowledge with regard to being saved... and suppose that he is overtaken in a gross fault, that he has committed a sin that he knows will deprive him of that exaltation which he desires, and that he cannot attain to it without the shedding his blood, and also knows that by having his blood shed he will atone for that sin and be saved and exalted with the Gods, is there a man or woman in this house but what would say, 'shed my blood that I may be saved and exalted with the Gods?'

"All mankind love themselves, and let these principles be known by an individual, and he would be glad to have his blood shed. That would be loving themselves, even unto an eternal exaltation. Will you love your brothers and sisters likewise, when they have committed a sin that cannot be atoned for without the shedding of their blood? Will you love that man or woman well enough to shed their blood? That is what Jesus Christ meant....

10 posted on 01/14/2012 8:17:13 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: MHGinTN
Mormon's today like to conflate language, but at the end of the day, the distinct difference in Christianity and Mormonism is in the Nicene Creed:

(We believe)....And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, Very God of Very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father by whom all things were made....

However, my problems with Romney is he is a moderate to liberal guy. His economics is big business/government centered, not on free markets/consumers. He disguises his liberalism and economics with punch words and key talking points. The guy was so unpopular in Mass. he did not run for a second term, yet is slick enough to convince the establishment he can make an impact with NE moderates. He has convinced everyone he is the "market" guy because he was in the business world, yet he supports ethanol subsidies, deflating the US dollar, keeping the US tax code with a 59 page modification and has offer no substantial plan to ease the massive US regulation

16 posted on 01/14/2012 8:33:19 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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