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Project to pour water into volcano to make power
Physorg.com ^ | 1/14/2012 | Jeff Barnard

Posted on 01/14/2012 7:39:23 PM PST by aimhigh

Geothermal energy developers plan to pump 24 million gallons of water into the side of a dormant volcano in Central Oregon this summer to demonstrate new technology they hope will give a boost to a green energy sector that has yet to live up to its promise.

(Excerpt) Read more at physorg.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: energy; greenenergy; pourwaterinvolcano; volcano; waterdumpintovolcano
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Earthquake potential, since the process used is similar to fracking.
1 posted on 01/14/2012 7:39:32 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

YIKES!!

This could be explosive.


2 posted on 01/14/2012 7:40:34 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: aimhigh
"a dormant volcano." These wise guys think they are soo smart...wait until Mother Nature decides to slap them upside the head.
3 posted on 01/14/2012 7:41:48 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: aimhigh

The small-scale unit is available for home use and can allow anyone live totally "off the grid".

4 posted on 01/14/2012 7:42:50 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: aimhigh

"....liquid hot magma."

5 posted on 01/14/2012 7:43:15 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: aimhigh
What could possibly go wrong???
6 posted on 01/14/2012 7:43:15 PM PST by null and void (Day 1088 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: aimhigh

7 posted on 01/14/2012 7:44:21 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: aimhigh

I have a feeling they are in for a big surprise...like noxious gases escaping, but not through the natual outlet. Bet thewy kill everything within 100 miles.


8 posted on 01/14/2012 7:45:05 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: aimhigh

Crater Lake must be from the prototype version then.


9 posted on 01/14/2012 7:45:29 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: aimhigh

Why do I have a very bad feeling about that idea?

........lolol......idiots....


10 posted on 01/14/2012 7:49:44 PM PST by Never A Dull Moment
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To: hinckley buzzard
The Newberry Caldera has a history of exhaustive eruptions, which is why there is no cone. Every time it erupts, the magma chamber exhausts itself, empties, and the resulting cone collapses into the magma chamber. Its eruptions have been the largest and most spectacular in central Oregon. But it's been several thousand years since the last eruption. It's sleeping -- for now.

It's an interesting experiment they're proposing, and it's probably safe. That area of central Oregon hasn't had an eruption in a very long time.

11 posted on 01/14/2012 7:50:50 PM PST by Publius
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To: aimhigh
As long as the level of injection is quite near the surface there seems to be limited risk.

Injecting below the center of the mass of the magma chamber would be problematic.

12 posted on 01/14/2012 7:51:57 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: combat_boots
Crater Lake came from the plinean eruption of Mt. Mazama some 7000 years ago. It's asleep for now.
13 posted on 01/14/2012 7:53:01 PM PST by Publius
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To: aimhigh

It can’t be any more dangerous than, say, slipping an enema to a sleeping, sluggish bulldog. Here, hold my beer ...


14 posted on 01/14/2012 7:54:24 PM PST by tumblindice (ABR)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Hey, I have one of those prototypes somewhere around here, left over from a (now) 20 something year old’s elementary education.


15 posted on 01/14/2012 7:54:39 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Publius

Pining for the fjords.


16 posted on 01/14/2012 7:55:19 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: aimhigh
It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.

I suspect they'll get steam where they don't expect it, with hydrogen sulfide and chlorine in larger amounts than they expect and assorted earthquakes where they don't want 'em.

17 posted on 01/14/2012 7:55:35 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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18 posted on 01/14/2012 7:55:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: aimhigh

U-huh. And just how much electric power — generated from coal-fired plants — will it take to pump all that water up the side of the mountain? I can’t believe how stupid Greeniacs are.


19 posted on 01/14/2012 7:56:05 PM PST by pabianice (")
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To: pabianice

Damn, you beat me to it! Hand pumps?


20 posted on 01/14/2012 7:58:40 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Publius

I saw Crater Lake. It’s cold. It’s also in Oregon, if I recall correctly, but Mt. Shasta’s not far, comparatively speaking.

I also heard St. Helens erupt and drove right over I-5 after it had just been re-opened. Complete with huge Cypress trees washing down the Toutle like toothpicks.

And the same people who think drilling for oil and/or coal mining is a bad idea believe this plan is brilliant?


21 posted on 01/14/2012 7:58:50 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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22 posted on 01/14/2012 8:02:50 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: combat_boots

They weren’t cypresses. They were Douglas firs. Tall, brittle and dangerous in a mudflow.


23 posted on 01/14/2012 8:02:54 PM PST by Publius
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To: pabianice

That will never enter into their plans or equations. Somehow the water will just get there. I was beaten to the handpump concept. Maybe that would be a WPA project 2.0 that the wun would put the unemployed on.


24 posted on 01/14/2012 8:03:15 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Publius

Would you prefer your new sea-side resort to be Publiusville or San Publius?


25 posted on 01/14/2012 8:03:56 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet; pabianice
There are two lakes in the caldera.

I bet we could find an endangered snail or three between them...

26 posted on 01/14/2012 8:04:44 PM PST by null and void (Day 1088 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: aimhigh

Why pour perfectly good water into a volcano to make power?

I have a better idea! To make plenty of power for millions for hundreds of years, we can pour the world’s solar panels and windmill parts into the volcano.

[It’s kind of like sending that stuff to where the sun don’t shine.]


27 posted on 01/14/2012 8:05:02 PM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
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To: SatinDoll

Yup, like a giant Chinese-made (i.e., defective) pressure cooker. I mean, gee, wouldn’t you want to know how all the pipes are connected before you dump a mountain’s lake worth of ice water into the magma chamber? And do they?


28 posted on 01/14/2012 8:05:23 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: RetiredTexasVet
Hand pumps are too technological and labor saving for the green fascists. Moochelle thinks we're too fat so this would fit both requirements of no technology/labor saving and weight loss.


29 posted on 01/14/2012 8:06:30 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Jonty30

In proper Spanish, it would be San Publio.


30 posted on 01/14/2012 8:06:43 PM PST by Publius
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To: null and void

That would be hilarious


31 posted on 01/14/2012 8:06:56 PM PST by TheZMan (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2794639/posts)
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To: Publius

OK.

The state patrolman wiped out on foot right there on I-5, mud and all. It was really something.


32 posted on 01/14/2012 8:08:31 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: aimhigh
Geothermal energy developers plan to pump 24 million gallons of water into the side of a dormant volcano in Central Oregon this summer to demonstrate new technology they hope will give a boost to a green energy sector that has yet to live up to its promise.

What could go wrong???

Age-old Axiom #9

Let sleeping volcanos lie.

33 posted on 01/14/2012 8:08:37 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: aimhigh
The U.S. Department of Energy has given the project $21.5 million in stimulus funds.

The kiss of death, more tax-payer money literally down a hole.

34 posted on 01/14/2012 8:09:16 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: aimhigh
LOL!

We can't drill, dig for coal, run a nuclear plant, build dams for hydro power, because it's not safe for the environment. But we can drop water into an uncontrollable volcano because someone calls it green?

-PJ

35 posted on 01/14/2012 8:10:53 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: null and void
"What could possibly go wrong???"

I've been seeing that alot lately around here! LOL

36 posted on 01/14/2012 8:12:15 PM PST by Dogbert41
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To: Publius

Perhaps.

But when you’re Kim Jong Publius, you’ll be able to call it what you want.


37 posted on 01/14/2012 8:13:38 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: aimhigh

It would be MUCH simpler to just lift the restrictions preventing development of so many more natural geothermal sites.

The Black Rock Desert comes to mind for one.
Dingy Harry stuck us with that “Wilderness” and “NCA” as an amendment to a spending bill several years ago.

@&%!*# Dingy Harry!

The way they slipped in the allegation that Fracking causes earthquakes is too cute by half.


38 posted on 01/14/2012 8:18:02 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: aimhigh
and how much energy is used to pump the water into it???
39 posted on 01/14/2012 8:18:39 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: aimhigh

But, but actor Danny Glover says that global warming causes earthquakes, and he played the US president in a movie where everything that possibly could go wrong, did. (2012)
So if this volcano goes Krakatoa, then the temperature rises and, I see ...
it’s a profit thing!


40 posted on 01/14/2012 8:21:45 PM PST by tumblindice (ABR)
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To: aimhigh

There’s earthquakes all over the place where there never used to be earthquakes, allegedly from water pumped underground for “fracking” shale to extract gas, and these guys want to frack a volcano?


41 posted on 01/14/2012 8:24:36 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: null and void

You obviously don’t understand how the system works.


42 posted on 01/14/2012 8:35:40 PM PST by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Tell ‘em to frack off!;)


43 posted on 01/14/2012 8:35:43 PM PST by Frank_2001
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. . . . This may be off topic.

Project to pour water into volcano to make power

And the same people who think drilling for oil and/or coal mining is a bad idea believe this plan is brilliant?

Nully said, "What could possibly go wrong???"

.

44 posted on 01/14/2012 8:36:41 PM PST by LucyT ( NB. ~ Pakistan was NOT on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981. ~)
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To: aimhigh

Nobody who is loudly fretting about possible earthquakes from fracking is fretting about the unintended consequences of this proposal. Why?

(For my part, I wish the project all success. I think it very unlikely there will be any unintended consequences, except if there is an undue amount of hazardous minerals in the returned steam.)


45 posted on 01/14/2012 8:44:03 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: aimhigh

$21.5 million in taxpayer money and they do NOT have plans to generate ANY power from this project! as per the article.

They should have named the company Volyndra.


46 posted on 01/14/2012 8:44:46 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: LucyT
A few days after the devastating explosion, as his hysterical laughter finally subsided, they asked the sole surviving scientist what was so funny....

Still howling with laughter, he choked out, "You should have seen that monkey trying to put the cork back in!"

47 posted on 01/14/2012 8:52:40 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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You obviously don’t understand how the system works.

I didn't say find them now. Wait until they've invested billions in permitting, site prep, infrastructure and baksheesh first.

Then find the snails.

48 posted on 01/14/2012 8:53:42 PM PST by null and void (Day 1088 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: combat_boots
And the same people who think drilling for oil and/or coal mining is a bad idea believe this plan is brilliant?

About the only 'production' I really expect from this is from the tapayers' pockets.

Sigh... "Never give a sucker an even break..."

49 posted on 01/14/2012 8:55:59 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: LucyT

Dominic Green must be real.

Art, imitating life.

“Another Way to Die”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhhSU6a4Qu8


50 posted on 01/14/2012 8:57:37 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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