In a veer back to this thread topic, I heard one pundit or another comment that this gubmint admin is working on a peace treaty with the Taliban, thus Hill’s shill and Panetta’s curse to those soldiers. Then the pundit, Crystal I think, said this so-called peace talk is kind of like the Paris Peace treaty talks during Vietnam. Something traitor Kerry was involved in, but I digress.
Again I sit up in shock. Hey, I really thought the Paris Peace talks at the time were legit, not just a cover for ending the war. So is this talk of peace with Taliban a way to get us out of Afghanistan...come on, I got a bridge to sell anyone who’s dumb enough to believe that a loose bunch of nutballs using a religion as a reason to rape, murder and control a populace is going to adhere to any kind of peace treaty.
Problem here is, as well as in Afghanistan, is America doesn’t fight to win wars anymore. We go in then the politicos get all involved with what the army’s doing and somebody gets a military contract....somebody gets free heating oil for their district....and soon is a big mire and the American people get sick of it.
It’s why Ron Paul gets any traction at all in that Americans want to see an end in sight in Iraq and Afghanistan. And I must suppose that these peace talks with the Taliban will be believed by the boobs amongst us.
Frankly I want to see America out of Iraq and Afghanistan but I’d sure like to see it happen with smiles, victory and an iron-hand oversight after the fact to make sure this does not happen again.
Kind of like Japan was handled, as I see it.
“Frankly I want to see America out of Iraq and Afghanistan but I’d sure like to see it happen with smiles, victory and an iron-hand oversight after the fact to make sure this does not happen again.”
You won’t find a group more eager to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan than members of the U.S. Military.
But we have to do it the right way with the “iron-hand oversight after the fact to make sure this does not happen again.” as you put it.
And the “peace talks” are just the tip of the iceberg in this fiasco.
Sit down first before I tell you this Fish.
In order to get the Taliban to agree to set up an office in Qatar to begin these peace talks...the Obama administration agreed to their demands that we let several high value targets to go free from Gitmo.
I’m at a loss for words to say what I feel over this.
The Paris Peace talks gave the US enough cover to get out of Dodge. At the time, 1973, with Nixon just beginning his 2nd term, the thinking was if the NVA moved into South Vietnam we would bomb the piss out of them. However Watergate led to a democrat sweep of Congress and Nixon was sent packing.
When the NVA made their move Congress was not going to lift a finger to support South Vietnam.
The North Vietnamese didn't adhere to what was negotiated and yes it was just a vehicle to get us out of the war. The South Vietnamese fought two more years on their own until the Dem controlled Congress cut off arms supplies and other logistics.
Any agreement with the Taliban will eventually lead to the Taliban retaking Afghanistan. The remaining American troops there now are risking their lives for nothing. This amounts to surrender by us. Just like North Vietnam was on the verge of defeat until we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, so too now we are doing the same thing. The only reason the Taliban are negoitiating is because they are losing. We are just giving them a lifeline.
I found it amusing that the Taliban spokesman commenting on the urinating on Taliban corpses decried the Marines' actions but said that it would not affect ongoing negotiations. Of course it won't. Moreover, it actually helps them in the negotiations. I wonder if the Obama administration leaked the video to gain support from the US public to bug out as soon as possible from this "immoral war" where US troops are committing atrocities. That was the message when John Kerry testified before Congress as part of the anti-war movement when he returned from his 4 and one-half months in Vietnam replete with 3 phony PHs.