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To: MrB
It is impossible for a creationist to give serious consideration to ANY interpretation of ANY evidence that goes against their a priori theological assumptions. Otherwise they wouldn't be creationists.

I have given the more consideration than is due to the religiously motivated hypothesis that the long ages of the Earth and the massive changes in climate we can see the evidence for over that time all happened within the last few thousand years.

There is simply no way to divorce the evidence of the change in climate with the evidence that these changes took place many MILLIONS of years ago.

Sort of like asking people to take you seriously that that items found in ancient Egypt were all made within the last fifty years, but you can still somehow tell a lot about ancient Egypt by studying them!

So HOW would this ability to rapidly change be “created in” “from the start”?

The evidence of HOW is that DNA is mutable, and that natural selection acts upon variations such that those that lead to better reproductive outcomes (warm fur in an Ice Age) will predominate in subsequent generations.

Amusing that creationists claim to not accept evolution - until they need animals to rapidly change in response to a rapid Ice Age - or rapidly differentiate from those few species that could fit on a boat - and then they accept evolution at a speed and with a power well beyond that ever proposed by evolutionary biology - just so long as you don't CALL IT the dreaded “e” word!

Hilarious!

25 posted on 01/17/2012 2:48:44 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

There is a huge difference between species adaptation (evolution), and the ORIGIN OF A SPECIES. Which by the way is what Darwin was claiming with his THEORY of evolution. Hence the title to his book The Origin of Species.

I do not think it is unreasonable for a species to adapt in a few thousand years to genetic or environmental pressures. Creationism and this evolution or intelligent design are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I remain open minded, which is more than can be said for most of those who believe in Darwin’s THEORY.

But, according to Darwin, this is only a small part of this THEORY. He believed that an entirely new species would emerge from this so called evolution.

If you are going to ridicule people’s religious beliefs, yours had better be above reproach. And yes, fervent and uncompromising belief in the THEORY of evolution is no different than any other religious fanatic. Since it is at best an unproven theory, how do you pretend to be superior to those who do not agree with you, and believe me, your posts convey exactly that sentiment.


27 posted on 01/17/2012 4:10:17 PM PST by BizBroker (Democrats- Don't want 'em, Don't need 'em, Can't use 'em, Couldn't afford 'em if I did!)
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To: allmendream

Wow... from reading your screed, I see the wisdom of the ages - that there are none so blind as those that will not see. So many strawmen, misrepresentations, assumptions, and just willful blindness.

It’s not up to me to convince you, that’s the job of the Holy Spirit.

As for giving consideration to the scientific interpretations of the evidence through the lens of creation instead of through the lens/assumptions of millions/billions of years & evolution, you’re simply lying to yourself, not to us, we can see through it. Ever read a book by Dr John Morris, for instance?
I suppose you assume that you’re smarter than all the PhD physicists, astrophysicists, biologists, geologists, hydrodynamic engineers and others that are creation scientists.

And your blindness cannot be any more evident in your “amusement” about distinguishing a difference between rapid adaptive ability of species and goo to you “evolution”.

Really? Do you really believe that the adaptation of, say, a polar bear somehow proves that goo through millions of years became you? Do you see how amusing THAT is?

This line was especially revealing of your blinders:
“So HOW would this ability to rapidly change be “created in” “from the start”?”


33 posted on 01/18/2012 5:34:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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