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Rethinking gun control in out-of-control times(NJ)
njjewishnews.com ^ | 17 January, 2012 | Jared Silverman

Posted on 01/18/2012 5:41:06 AM PST by marktwain

The news from northern New Jersey this week was not good. Several Molotov cocktails and other incendiary devices were thrown at Congregation Beth El in Rutherford early on the morning of Jan. 11, igniting a fire in the second-floor bedroom of the rabbi’s residence above the synagogue.

This was the fourth anti-Semitic incident in Bergen County within a three-week period. A fire was intentionally set at a synagogue in Paramus and anti-Semitic graffiti was discovered at synagogues in Hackensack and Maywood.

The Rutherford incident is being classified as a bias crime and attempted murder. The Bergen County prosecutor said there was no evidence yet linking the four incidents, but believes they might be connected. He urged residents to be vigilant, but not afraid.

New Jersey has the second largest Jewish population by percentage after New York and a significant number of NJ Jews live in Bergen County. I think about the title of Sinclair Lewis’ novel, It Can’t Happen Here.

But can it happen here?

Alan Dershowitz warns anti-Semitism is moving into the mainstream. Historian Benzion Netanyahu, Bibi’s father, believes anti-Semitism is deeply implanted in gentile cultures.

If there is a possibility that it can happen here, what should American Jews do? Is it sufficient for American Jews to merely be vigilant but not afraid as the Bergen County prosecutor suggests?

My daughter, Helen, is attending the Jewish Theological Seminary for a master’s degree. Her mother’s concerns for Helen’s safety as a young woman in New York City is now exacerbated by concern for her safety as a student at a prominent Jewish institution.

Is vigilance enough? Should some proactive steps be taken to improve Helen’s personal security? Her mother thinks so. Particularly, she believes that Helen should be trained in defensive martial arts. She also believes in firearms training. I tend to agree. This puts us in opposition to the majority of American Jews.

“Never again” is a vow against another Shoa. It is used as a rationale for the creation of Israel, signifying that Jews will defend themselves against those who would oppress and kill them because they are Jews. An armed Jew was an anomaly in 1947; an armed Jew is an anomaly in the United States today. Going even further, an armed citizenry, as contemplated by the Second Amendment, is an anathema to most American Jews, who tend to be among the strongest advocates of gun control.

America and the world have grown increasingly unsafe; nonetheless, there is steadfast belief that the police will be there when you need them.

Assume you have an intruder in your home at night. What do you do, especially when you are in fear for your life and the lives of your family? If you can safely make an undetected 911 call, you can hope the police make it in time, or you can defend yourself. In 2011, the average response time for New York City police to get to a crime was 8.4 minutes, up from 7.5 minutes in 2010. Much can happen while waiting for the police. Consider the well-publicized case of the young Oklahoma widow with an infant who shot intruders with her late husband’s pistol and shotgun. She made a 911 call and the dispatcher told her to do whatever she had to in order to protect her baby. One of the intruders died with a knife in his hand.

There are “castle laws” in 31 states — including New Jersey — which allow people to protect their homes with deadly force under specified circumstances, allowing them to avoid prosecution. But, if you have no gun, the statutory protection does not help.

Public safety is becoming increasingly problematic. Crimes are becoming more violent. Police are spread thin due to budget restraints. This means that the police may not be there when you need them.

The prudent approach is to get training in defensive arts, including the proper use of firearms. As shown in Oklahoma, firearms may be your only defense.

For Jews and women there are risk factors above those for the general population. The far-sighted approach is to be trained to properly react when life or limb is threatened.

I do not own a gun; however, I am considering getting one. I believe guns should be licensed and their owners properly trained. I also want to emphasis that there is a difference between ownership and the right to carry. It is difficult to get a permit to carry a concealed gun. However, there is some evidence of a deterrent effect of licensed, concealed weapons. FBI statistics, cited by the National Rifle Association, show that “right-to-carry” states have 22 percent lower total violent crime rates, 30 percent lower murder rates, 46 percent lower robbery rates, and 12 percent lower aggravated assault rates, as compared to the rest of the country. I wonder what would be the effect on hate crimes.

As the shift sergeant always said at the beginning of the classic TV show Hill Street Blues, “Let’s be careful out there.” The best way is to follow the Boy Scout credo: “Be Prepared.”

Jared Silverman, a West Orange attorney, is a self-described conservatarian. He can be reached at ajs@e-counsel.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; jew; nj
I believe that Jewish law demands self defense.
1 posted on 01/18/2012 5:41:09 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

As a gentile let me observe that any unarmed Jew who has ever voiced the righteous sentiment, “Never Again” is engaging in at least self-deception if not leading his co-religionists to destruction. The right to life means nothing if one does not have the means of self-defense and that does not mean dialing 911.


2 posted on 01/18/2012 5:49:58 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: marktwain
I do not own a gun; however, I am considering getting one. I believe guns should be licensed and their owners properly trained . . . However, there is some evidence of a deterrent effect of licensed, concealed weapons. FBI statistics, cited by the National Rifle Association, show that “right-to-carry” states have 22 percent lower total violent crime rates, 30 percent lower murder rates, 46 percent lower robbery rates, and 12 percent lower aggravated assault rates, as compared to the rest of the country. I wonder what would be the effect on hate crimes.

I don't approve of posting that you don't own a gun below your real name - that sounds like asking for trouble.

I don't approve of posting that you might buy a gun below your real name - that sounds like asking for trouble.

I don't approve of requiring that guns be licensed. That makes it too easy for an out of control government to try to take them away.

I VERY strongly approve this guy getting training before owning any firearms. He sounds like he may be teachable but is currently shockingly clueless.

While I believe that firearms make us safer, I am skeptical of the statistics he sites. The right-to-carry states cited by the NRA are entirely different in culture from the other states, and the association with lower crime rates cannot be inferred to be cause and effect. I suspect the NRA conclusion is correct, but the evidence mentioned is not relevant.

3 posted on 01/18/2012 5:52:31 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: marktwain
I do not own a gun; however, I am considering getting one. I believe guns should be licensed and their owners properly trained

And this is exactly why no one should anyone pay any attention to drivel from this bozo. Screw him any any mealy mouthed jackass who claims to be in favor of self defense, but then wants to restrict a fundamental right by adding a government approval step.

4 posted on 01/18/2012 6:19:41 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: marktwain

What is a “bias crime”?


5 posted on 01/18/2012 6:20:03 AM PST by Just A Reader
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To: marktwain
It is difficult nearly impossible to get a permit to carry a concealed gun in New Jersey unless you are politically connected.
6 posted on 01/18/2012 6:23:53 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: marktwain
I'm surprised the federal government isn't trying to regulate getting fuel now show some ID at the pump(except for voting you have to make that easier for the illegal vote).
7 posted on 01/18/2012 6:26:19 AM PST by THE_RAIDER (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing their idiot.)
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To: marktwain
Jared Silverman, a West Orange attorney, is a self-described conservatarian.

???

8 posted on 01/18/2012 6:26:32 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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9 posted on 01/18/2012 6:26:39 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: marktwain
The prudent approach is to get training in defensive arts, including the proper use of firearms. As shown in Oklahoma, firearms may be your only defense.

Prudence indeed does dictate that one have the forethought to learn how to defend one's own life and those that one is responsible for.

10 posted on 01/18/2012 6:30:02 AM PST by snowsislander (Gingrich 2012.)
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To: marktwain
I wonder how many of these anti-Semitic crimes were committed by members of the openly anti-Jewish OWS crowd?
11 posted on 01/18/2012 6:35:26 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: marktwain

While it is nice that the guy is beginning to see the light, he still falls into left wing traps. He still calls for licensed guns. Shame he doesn’t have the history knowledge to get that licensing was a tool used by the Nazis to keep undesirables from owning guns.


12 posted on 01/18/2012 6:36:24 AM PST by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: Pollster1

>While I believe that firearms make us safer, I am skeptical of the statistics he sites.

You might want to check out http://www.amazon.com/More-Guns-Less-Crime-Understanding/dp/0226493636

This is a very rigorous statistical treatment of crime rates vs. gun ownership and concealed carry. Lott does take the time to correct for a lot of factors (income, minorities, population density, etc), and his conclusion is that gun ownership and concealed carry consistently lower crime rates.


13 posted on 01/18/2012 6:40:25 AM PST by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: Pollster1

I am not at all skeptical of the figures. In most of those states that have CCW, the crime rates fell dramatically after the legislatures passed shall issue legislation.

It is what it is....


14 posted on 01/18/2012 6:58:29 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: All

the Left always wants to start with the ignorant premise that the lawless will suddenly obey laws.
Gun control laws always hurt the good guys.


15 posted on 01/18/2012 7:03:23 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: marktwain

stupid haters. It’s the communists and Islam that are the true dangers


16 posted on 01/18/2012 7:12:25 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: buffaloguy
I am not at all skeptical of the figures. In most of those states that have CCW, the crime rates fell dramatically after the legislatures passed shall issue legislation.

That is very nearly the relevant statistic. Perhaps I'm being picky here, since I agree with the final conclusion, but the reasoning cited by the author was not correct. A better point is that in most of those states that have CCW, the crime rates fell dramatically after the legislatures passed shall issue legislation, and those crime rates fell by more than in neighboring states, by more than in comparable states, and by more than the national average. The fact that Idaho and Utah have CCW and low crime is not terribly relevant. The fact that crime fell in Florida (and almost everywhere else) after each expansion of gun rights and fell by more than in non-CCW states is key.

17 posted on 01/18/2012 8:06:30 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: marktwain
I believe that Jewish law demands self defense.

"He who comes to kill you, arise and kill him first." Leviticus.

18 posted on 01/18/2012 8:10:57 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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