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Forget Ballots. Should Ex-Cons Get Guns?
The New Republic ^ | 17 January, 2012 | Timothy Noah

Posted on 01/18/2012 5:47:31 AM PST by marktwain

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To: MrB
isn’t someone’s Constitutional 2nd Amendment right being violated by the ATF requirement to show photo ID to purchase a firearm?

Excellent point. I'm using this

21 posted on 01/18/2012 7:02:58 AM PST by kidd
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To: marktwain

yes, they should. Once they have served their time, they should be restored, not marked forever like in some dictatorship communist hell hole.


22 posted on 01/18/2012 7:03:13 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: kidd

Photo ID for voting or gun buying article here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2834344/posts


23 posted on 01/18/2012 7:08:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: marktwain

They should not be allowed to vote.

Santorum was pandering to the black community when he suggested this.

Repeat offenders, anyone?

Some things one does have consequences. A few felons go on to live good lives and stay out of prison. That should be its own reward.

But they gave up the right to vote.

As for guns, you know the bumper sticker.


24 posted on 01/18/2012 7:08:42 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: marktwain

Unless post-prison rights to gun ownership, voting, residency, etc is stipulated during sentencing (or part of any agreed upon parole conditions)...then any additional constraints to Constitutional rights amounts to double jeopardy and is unconstitutional.


25 posted on 01/18/2012 7:10:33 AM PST by kidd
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To: yldstrk

I would say that this should be judged on a case by case basis, since some of the people affected by this seem to be guilty of minor crimes.

But I don’t think felons, guilty of murder, manslaughter, armed robber, drug dealing, rape, molestation, etc. should have any privileges granted to them.


26 posted on 01/18/2012 7:13:44 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: LevinFan

Same here with my brother. No vote/no guns because of a DUI which he served time for/went to rehab for. (One of the DUI’s occurred when he was SITTING in his car in his own driveway- shrew ex-wife called the cops). Thankfully he is recovered and helping others through AA. In the meantime, he can’t vote or own a gun. But illegals can do both.


27 posted on 01/18/2012 7:20:23 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: marktwain

I always thought that one’s “debt to society” was fulfilled upon completion of one’s sentence. That being the case, all rights should be restored. If we are so worried about a violent crime being committed by the excon due to his violent past that we keep him stripped of his rights even though he has completed his sentence then we should have hanged him from the getgo.


28 posted on 01/18/2012 7:30:42 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Beagle8U
Which is a flat out lie!

Are you sure? The NRA has supported a lot of gun control bills over the years (usually on the "lesser of two evils" theory). I suspect that Senator Santorum was following NRA instructions.

29 posted on 01/18/2012 7:50:05 AM PST by marktwain
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To: RC one

You choose to seize the basic rights of citizens because you don’t trust them. Think about who else the govenment can choose not to trust.
I’m well aware that most of them will vote dem, but we don’t have a right to seize their vote because we don’t agree with them.


30 posted on 01/18/2012 7:57:55 AM PST by LevinFan
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To: LearsFool

How on earth did they do this study? An early form of “gun walker”? Who was their test group?


31 posted on 01/18/2012 8:25:30 AM PST by Apogee
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To: MrB

If someone cannot be trusted with full citizenry upon release, they should not be released amongst full citizens.

Bingo !


32 posted on 01/18/2012 9:10:03 AM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: marktwain
Voting is far more dangerous than owning a gun. If they are allowed to vote, they should have the full rights of citizenship.

You believe there is people out there, any one of whom is capable of holding his vote to your head and blowing your brains out?
33 posted on 01/18/2012 10:09:29 AM PST by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: Cheburashka

Guns in unqualified hands may be more dangerous to individual citizens, but votes in unqualified hands are a danger to the entire republic. I believe the voting results for the last 75 years makes my point.


34 posted on 01/18/2012 11:57:34 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Sorry, the NRA or the GOA don't support the bill to close the ‘so called’ gun show loophole.

The way it was written it would have ended all private sales of guns. Everything bought or sold would have to go through a FFL dealer.

The NRA fought against the law. Santorum lied.

35 posted on 01/19/2012 6:00:11 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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