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Rick Perry’s Final Act: King Maker? (He can end his campaign now and leave a hero)
Red State ^ | 01/18/2012 | Erick Erikson

Posted on 01/18/2012 1:31:12 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: rfp1234

I hope he stays in and keeps Newster and Mittens at least a tiny bit honest.

I’m disgusted with Newt after I heard him this morning talking up the fact that Mitt “only pays 15% on his taxes, which is what most middle-class people pay, and Mitt is rich....*”. Newt knew good and well that Mitt was talking capital gains taxes and Newt was deliberately confusing them with income taxes. Disgusting.

* paraphrased from memory.


21 posted on 01/18/2012 1:54:32 PM PST by SuzyQue (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Because Santorum is serious; and Ron Paul is a 'spoiler' who wants influence. RP has no illusions per himself as Prez/

Ego a huge part of the equasion, of course. We saw that with the humble Herman Cain; who in the end; proved to be; much less than. . .

Amazing the seduction of power; when sought; tasted. . .gotten close to. Particularly vulnerable, of course; are those; who come from humble beginnings; those not used to the 'trappings' of power. (I think of Bill Clinton and of course; the one who suffers from the most pathological bond to power - in the person of Obama.)

22 posted on 01/18/2012 1:56:30 PM PST by cricket ( We have occupiers in our White House. Vote them out (and vote Newt in).)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
It seems the "pundits" are worried about Newt and Mitt going after each other -- best not to have Perry there to pick up the pieces after they destroy each other.

NEWT MITT

23 posted on 01/18/2012 1:56:59 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SeekAndFind

Stay in, Rick! You’re showing that you’re a fighter and every debate is better. Now is not the time to fold. We’ve only had two primaries, the entire rest of the country might like to have a say.


24 posted on 01/18/2012 2:07:16 PM PST by Kenny
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To: SeekAndFind

Because they’re not conservatives. They’re in favor of a DC insider taking the nomination and losing to Barry.

Stay in Rick Perry!


25 posted on 01/18/2012 2:14:01 PM PST by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Why are Conservatives asking Perry to quit? I don’t hear any clamor for Ron Paul to quit.”

Ron Paul is in the race for two reasons, to promote libertarianism and to be a spoiler. He never actually planned to win and so any attempts to get him to quit will never work.

Rick Perry on the other hand, entered to win and so given he has almost zero shot, he should just quit.


26 posted on 01/18/2012 2:14:24 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: SuzyQue

I hope he stays in and keeps Newster and Mittens at least a tiny bit honest.

I’m disgusted with Newt after I heard him this morning talking up the fact that Mitt “only pays 15% on his taxes, which is what most middle-class people pay, and Mitt is rich....*”. Newt knew good and well that Mitt was talking capital gains taxes and Newt was deliberately confusing them with income taxes. Disgusting.

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All rates should be equal. The investor class needs to pay more, OR the people who work need to pay less.

EQUAL protection under the law.


27 posted on 01/18/2012 2:34:38 PM PST by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: libertarian neocon

Why should he quit? His percentage won’t make a bit of difference to Newt or Santorum. Go after either Newt or Santorum to quit if you want to make the arguement that Romney will win unless they do. Perry isn’t sucking oxygen out of anyone’s campaign and he has a lot to say.


28 posted on 01/18/2012 2:46:13 PM PST by McGavin999 ("If you'll have my back when I go to Washington, I'll have yours" Rick Perry 2012)
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To: McGavin999

“Why should he quit? His percentage won’t make a bit of difference to Newt or Santorum. Go after either Newt or Santorum to quit if you want to make the arguement that Romney will win unless they do. Perry isn’t sucking oxygen out of anyone’s campaign and he has a lot to say.”

Iowa was decided by 8 votes so every vote counts. Also, I’m pretty sure there are Perry financial backers who are withholding support from others because they don’t want to insult Perry.


29 posted on 01/18/2012 2:50:07 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t think Rick Perry is the sort of man who easily drops out. I also think he has a lot of pride — and well he should with his solid governing record.

It is just so disheartening that only millionaires/billionaires can survive presidential campaigns. Not what our founders intended.


30 posted on 01/18/2012 2:51:15 PM PST by varina davis (Elect a real American patriot in 2012 -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: ROTB

Yes, but the point is - and it is an extremely important one - that Mittens pays capital gains taxes and not payroll taxes because he doesn’t draw a salary. I pay payroll taxes, at a higher rate than that, because my income comes from salary. Newt knows the difference - I’ve heard him lecture during debates on this very topic.


31 posted on 01/18/2012 3:00:56 PM PST by SuzyQue (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Considering Perry’s poorly performing campaign, perhaps Perry should have taken him up on his offer because he certainly couldn’t make it any worse than it already is.

Seems like your boy is too busy getting his puppet string pulled in too many directions. That’s what happens when one lacks a spine.


32 posted on 01/18/2012 3:14:18 PM PST by montyspython ((Romney-Perry-Obama ... No Way))
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To: SuzyQue

Newt knows the difference - I’ve heard him lecture during debates on this very topic.

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You sir, are correct. I was piping up about in-equality.


33 posted on 01/18/2012 3:36:33 PM PST by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: SuzyQue

This campaign is starting to get on my nerves. If Newt keeps acting like a jerk, Perry might as well endorse another amphibian, like Kermit the Frog.


34 posted on 01/18/2012 3:36:33 PM PST by rfp1234 (RFP's Law: Whoever blames Bush first shall lose the argument.)
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To: SeekAndFind

LOL............

A 5%er is king maker....... Erick take another puff and close your eyes for a nap.


35 posted on 01/18/2012 3:41:10 PM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good grief woman, Perry is toast. Get over it!

Do you need to destroy the entire party to defend this loser?


36 posted on 01/18/2012 4:08:09 PM PST by Jean S
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To: libertarian neocon

The Perry backers backed Perry because of who he is, they will not be financially backing anyone else until, perhaps, the general.


37 posted on 01/18/2012 4:56:40 PM PST by McGavin999 ("If you'll have my back when I go to Washington, I'll have yours" Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Jean S

How can a court jester be a king maker?


38 posted on 01/18/2012 4:59:41 PM PST by rintense
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To: SeekAndFind; All

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Santorum needs to place his country before himself-
but his ego won’t let him.

Rick Perry is twice the Conservative Santorum is!

Perry stated that in his administration he would start all countries getting U.S. foreign aid at ZERO, until they proved to be our allies.

He was also the first to bring the war on religion to the forefront.

Take a look at RINO Santorum’s voting record:

Santorum:

Voted for Federal funding of the National Endowment for the Arts.
Voted against a 10% cut in the budget for National Endowment for the Arts.

Bankruptcy
Voted for a Schumer amendment to make the debts of pro-life demonstrators not dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Defense and Foreign Policy

Voted for the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).
Voted against requiring the President to certify that the CWC is effectively verifiable.

Voted against requiring the President to certify that that Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, North Korea, China, and all other countries determined to be state sponsors of terror have joined CWC prior to submitting the instrument of ratification.

Voted for the START II Treaty
Voted to allow the sale of supercomputers to China.
Voted to ban antipersonnel landmines
Voted against increasing defense spending offset by equivalent cuts in non-defense spending.
Voted to require that Federal bureaucrats get the same payraises as uniformed military.
Voted to allow food and medicine sales to state sponsors of terror and tyranical regimes such as Libya and Cuba.
Voted to limit the President’s authority to impose sanctions on nations for reasons of national security unless the sanctions were approved by a multilateral regime.
Voted against requiring Congressional authorization for military action in Bosnia.
Voted to give $25 million in foreign aid to North Korea
Voted to weaken alien terrorist deportation provisions. If the Court determines that the evidence must be withheld for national security reasons, the Justice Department must still provide a summary of the evidence sufficient for the alien terrorist to mount a defense against deportation.
Voted against delaying the India Nuclear until the President certified that India had agreed to suspend military-to-military exchanges with Iran.
Voted against the Conventional Trident Missile Program

Nominations
Voted for Richard Paez to the 9th Curcuit (cloture)
Voted for Sonia Sotomayor, Circuit Judge
Voted for Richard Holbrooke to be Ambassador to the UN
Voted for Margaret Morrow to be District Judge
Voted twice for Marsha Berzon to the 9thg Circuit
Voted for Mary McLaughlin to be District Judge
Voted for Tim Dyk to be District Judge
Voted for James Brady to be District Judge

Labor
Voted against National Right to Work Act
Voted against Real of Davis-Bacon Prevailing union wages
Voted for Alexis Herman to be Secretary of Labor
Voted for mandatory Federal child care funding
Voted for Trade Adjustment Assistance.
Voted for Job Corps funding
Voted twice in support of Fedex Unionization
Voted against allowing a waiver of Davis-Bacon in emergency situations.
Voted for minimum wage increases six times here here here here here and here
Voted to require a union representative on an IRS oversight board.
Voted to exempt IRS union representative from criminal ethics laws.
Voted against creating independent Board of Governors to investigate IRS abuses.
Guns

Voted to require pawn shops to do background checks on people who pawn a gun.
Voted twice to make it illegal to sell a gun without a secure storage or safety device
Voted for a Federal ban on possession of “assault weapons” by those under 18.
Voted for Federal funding for anti-gun education programs in schools.
Voted for anti-gun juvenile justice bill.

Reform

Voted for funding for the legal services corporation.
Voted twice for a Congressional payraise.
Voted to impose a uniform Federal mandate on states to force them to allow convicted rapits, arsonists, drug kingpins, and all other ex-convicts to vote in Federal elections.
Voted for the Specter “backup plan” to allow campaign finance reform to survive if portions of the bill were found unconstitutional.
Voted to mandate discounted broadcast times for politicians.
Voted for a McCain amendment to require State and local campaign committees to report all campaign contributions to the FEC and to require all campaign contributions to be reported to the FEC within 24 hours within 90 days of an election.

Immigration
Voted against increasing the number of immigration investigators
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens
Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens.
Voted to give welfare benefits to naturalized citizens without regard to to the earnings of their sponsors.
Voted against hiring an additional 1,000 border partrol agents, paid for by reductions in state grants.

Taxes
Voted against a flat tax.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for Medicare prescription drugs
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to fund health insurance subsidies for small businesses.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an $8 billion increase in child healh insurance.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an increase in NIH funding.
Voted twice for internet taxes.
Voted to allow gas tax revenues to be used to subsidize Amtrak.
Voted to strike marriage penalty tax relief and instead provide fines on tobacco companies.
Voted against repealing the Clinton 4.3 cent gas tax increase.
Voted to increase taxes by $2.3 billion to pay for an Amtrak trust fund.
Voted to allow welfare to a minor who had a child out of wedlock and who resided with an adult who was on welfare within the previous two years.
Voted to increase taxes by $9.4 billion to pay for a $9.4 billion increase in student loans.
Voted to say that AMT patch is more important than capital gains and dividend relief.

Welfare
Voted against food stamp reform
Voted against Medicaid reform
Voted against TANF reform
Voted to increase the Social Services Block Grant from $1 billion to $2 billion
Voted to increase the FHA loan from $170,000 to $197,000. Also opposed increasing GNMA guaranty from 6 basis points to 12.
Voted for $2 billion for low income heating assistance.

Waste
Sponsored An amendment to increase Amtrak funds by $550 million
Voted to use HUD funds for the Joslyn Art Museum (NE), the Stand Up for Animals project (RI) and the Seattle Art Museum’s Olympic Sculpture Project (WA)
Voted to increase spending on social programs by $7 billion
Voted to increase NIH funding by $1.6 billion.
Voted to increase NIHnding by $700 million
Voted to for a $2 million earmark to renovate the Vulcan Monument (AL)
Voted for a $1 billion bailout for the steel industry
Voted against requiring that highway earmarks would come out of a state’s highway allocation
Voted to allow Market Access Program funds to go to foreign companies.
Voted to allow OPIC to increase its administrative costs by 50%
Voted against transferring $20 million from Americorps to veterans.
Voted for the $140 billion asbestos compensation bill.
Voted against requiring a uniform medical criteria to ensure asbestos claims were legitimate.
Voted to increase community development programs by $2 billion.

Spending and Entitlements
Voted to make Medicare part B premium subsidies an new entitlement.
Voted against paying off the debt ($5.6 trillion at the time) within 30 years.
Voted to give $18 billion to the IMF.
Voted to raid Social Security instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.

Health Care
Voted to allow states to impose health care mandates that are stricter than proposed new Federal mandates, but not weaker.
Voted twice for Federal mental health parity mandates in health insurance.
Voted against a allow consumers the option to purchase a plan outside the parity mandate.

Education
Voted to increase Federal funding for teacher testing
Voted to increase spending for the Department of Education by $3.1 billion.
Voted against requiring courts to consider the impact of IDEA awards on a local school district.

Energy

Voted to allow the President to designate certain sites as interim nuclear waste storage sites in the event that he determines that Yucca Mountain is not a suitable site for a permanent waste repository. Those sites are as follows: the nuclear waste site in Hanford, Washington; the Savannah River Site in South Carolina; Barnwell County, South Carolina; and the Oak Ridge Reservation in Tennessee.

Voted to make fuel price gouging a Federal crime.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/06/what-a-big-government-conservative-looks-like/

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Voted AGAINST increasing the number of immigration investigators?

VOTED AGAINST HIRING AN ADDITIONAL 1,000 BORDER PATROL AGENTS?

VOTED TO GIVE SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS?

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Santorum; Big government spender:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt6XCZz2X1Y&feature=player_embedded

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39 posted on 01/18/2012 6:00:30 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: SuzyQue

The point he was making is that Romney, who pretends to be one of the people (meaning the employed class), is not. There’s nothing wrong with living on your investment income, especially if you were born rich like Romney and parleyed that into even more money. That’s ok...and I believe Gingrich wants to do away with capital gains taxes, so in the end, Romney would pay even less.

But Gingrich actually works for a living and pays not only his income taxes but self-employment taxes (FICA, etc.) on his income. Being self-employed myself, I know what that’s like: if Gingrich is paying only 35% of his income in taxes, it’s because he has a good accountant and lots of deductions because of the nature of his work. I work in a low-deductions field and earn much less than he did and one year I paid nearly 60% of my income between income and self-employment taxes. We don’t have a regressive tax system here, we have a repressive tax system.

But the whole point, as with the Bain video, is that Romney is saying one thing but the whole reality is entirely different. That doesn’t mean that it’s illegal or even wrong, but Romney should be honest about it.

And Gingrich’s proposal to have a flat tax on income of any kind would solve all of this. Accountants and tax attorneys might be a little PO’ed, though...


40 posted on 01/18/2012 6:20:05 PM PST by livius
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