butterdezillion proved that the official (embossed) seal on Obama’s long-form birth certificate is not official. It’s the wrong size, for one thing. It’s barely visible on the scanned version on the WH blog.
The stamped certification is on the front, although other birth certificates are stamped on the back. Even a reporter at the press conference asked why the back of the birth certificate that the spokesperson was holding didn’t have a stamp.
The Hawaiian Dept. of Health has been asked and they will NOT verify OR condemn the online image. They will NOT say that they created it or say that what’s on it matches what’s in their records. They hide behind their privacy laws about not releasing any vital records information to people not allowed to receive it.
In this case, to say that something on the short-form or the long-form is NOT accurate would be (in their rationale) releasing information about a person’s vital records. It’s tortured reasoning, but they do it, among other reasons, BECAUSE they support Obama. It’s legalese that allows them to avoid having the full weight of the Obama WH come down on them, for one thing.
It may be that his original is sealed because of an adoption that he is hiding from the public. If it’s sealed, then there are more layers of law and policy that allow them to continue to obfuscate.
I do believe, as you do, that the certified copies Obama’s PERSONAL lawyer picked up are real. (Note that it was NOT the WH lawyer.)
Whatever those copies say is likely the TRUTH about the circumstances of his birth. He needed a waiver, perhaps because it was an adoption. But what we see on the released version is NOT what’s on the version the Dept. of Health gave his lawyer, I’d be willing to bet.
Say that it was an adoption and the Dept. of Health obviously knows that the parent(s) listed on the WH blog aren’t the ones on the version his lawyer received from them. Are they going to tell that to the public? They cannot do so. Which is why they evade the issue when asked.
They say nothing one way or the other. Not only don’t they condemn the birth certificates, they DON’T say they’re accurate, either.
IF those birth certificates are real and IF they match what he told the world, then there’s absolutely no logical reason to not present one of them to the court. Better yet, to ask the Hawaiian Dept. of Health to send a copy of the ORIGINAL, a copy of the page from the birth index (handwritten log book), and a copy of the microfilm directly to the court, along with a representative who will swear under penalty of perjury that all of it is authentic.
Perhaps you are right. Hawaii DOH might NOT say something if someone else fabricated it, though it's hard to believe they wouldn't make an issue out of the official seal unless it actually had their stamp of approval.
I think perhaps the judge can sort this all out. If not, Keeping Barack off of a ballot is a good default prize. Rest assured, if it had been a Republican trying to pull this off, we would not only have seen every private document in the State Archives leaked, we would have seen it front page news on every media outlet.