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To: Seizethecarp
But if that is the case, the fact that he was a bastard should have been made known to the American people prior to the election, and is in fact an attempt to defraud.

Apart from that, you are referring to his "legal" father. I do not recognize such legal hair splitting as legitimate. As far as I'm concerned, the father cannot be ignored, and the only father that matters is his real biological father.

If Obama's father is an American, (such as Frank Davis) then I will regard him as a "natural born citizen." If his biological father is the Kenyan (which I tend to doubt) then as far as i'm concerned he is NOT a "natural born citizen." ("Legal" father has nothing to do with "natural" father.)

Regardless, the man should not have been permitted to cover up the facts of his birth, and should have been required to be forthcoming prior to the election. The public had a right to know if he was really a bastard or not, and the successful effort to obfuscate this fact is a major fraud and ought to be punishable by prison.

44 posted on 01/19/2012 8:32:31 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
“Apart from that, you are referring to his “legal” father. I do not recognize such legal hair splitting as legitimate. As far as I'm concerned, the father cannot be ignored, and the only father that matters is his real biological father.”

Prior to the advent of DNA, in human history the identification of the biological father depended on the sometimes highly suspect claims if the mother...augmented hopefully by resemblance in many cases, of course.

From colonial times up until very recently it is ONLY the LEGAL father that matters in determining citizenship of the baby.

Your own personal opinion or mine cannot overturn well established international law going back to the founding.

Minor v. Happersett distinguishes between NBC birth and birth to aliens, but if there is no LEGAL alien parent there can be no alien citizenship or legal citizenship conflict.

As has been frequently mentioned there is not even a marriage document for Obama’s parents, bigamous or not and Stanley Ann's representations as to who the did is are suspect and do not in any way bind the UK.

47 posted on 01/19/2012 8:55:37 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: DiogenesLamp

So very true! Remember how the Obama campaign tried to create the romantic myth of Daddy Obama being “a simple Kenyan goat herder” when in fact his family was well connected in Kenyan political circles and that Senior had been the beneficiary of an academic airlift by the Kennedy family.

Since it is safe to say that these lies aided in bamboozling the electorate to vote for this usurper, this would constitute more evidence of the massive illegal fraud that was the Obama campaign.


82 posted on 01/19/2012 12:41:11 PM PST by DMZFrank
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