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To: apoliticalone

Sometimes pre-emptive wars are necessary. Even though Germany did not declare directly war on us, had we not declared war on Germany in WWII, you would be speaking German, whether you liked it or not.


11 posted on 01/19/2012 5:51:36 PM PST by richardtavor
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To: richardtavor

On that we will need to agree to disagree. We the people need a strong defense but for the USA only, not for the world.

Premptive wars are aka crony capitalism, where the rules can be bent not for America, but for those who benefit. It is about those that have who get more because taxpayers are forced to subsidize them. Wrong...you make a bet on a business and if you fail, you take the loss not taxpayers. Capitalism is about risk/reward and not subsidies from taxpayers

Other countries that wish to utilize our Dept of Defense should be subsidizing us, and not vice versa. We’re broke, remember.


26 posted on 01/19/2012 6:07:27 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: richardtavor
Even though Germany did not declare directly war on us...

From Diplomatic History of WW II

The U.S. declared war on Japan on December 8, 1941.

On December 11, Germany and Italy declared war on the U.S.A.

Later that same day, the U.S.A. declared war on Germany and Italy.

There is some question whether there would have been sufficient political support to declare war on Germany and Italy had they not declared war on us.

28 posted on 01/19/2012 6:11:47 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: richardtavor

Wrong... On BOTH COUNTS. Preemptive wars are always wrong and Germany DID declare war on us. The same day, if I recall my history correctly, we declared war on Japan. Then Italy followed suit.


81 posted on 01/20/2012 11:22:34 PM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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