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To: philman_36
The sad part is that even though no public sex acts ever happened,

Thank you for finally coming to the truth of the matter.

the knowledge that he would stoop to such a low act with such a prominent personage was sufficient to ruin him.

The fact is, what two CONSENTING ADULTS do in the context of their PRIVATE MARRIAGE is THEIR BUSINESS and NOT YOURS, nor anyone elses.

What part of this do you NOT understand? The fact is, it's none of your business, wasn't SUPPOSED to be any of your business, and the people you SHOULD be upset at are Axelrod, Obama and their willing co-conspirators in the liberal, lamestream media for practicing the politics of PERSONAL DESTRUCTION, at ANY COST, including that of Jack and Geri Ryan's children. You're missing the ENTIRE point, and you're (unwittingly) demonstrating just how STUPID the voters here in Illinois are. I know, I live here!

Were Jack and Geri Ryan FREE to do in their marriage as THEY SO DESIRED (or not as the case may be) or were they subject to YOUR standards of conduct in a marriage?

I happen to believe in the FREEDOM, SANCTITY and DIGNITY of Marriage. What two MARRIED, CONSENTING adults do in the context of THEIR marriage is THEIR business. Not mine, yours, or anyone elses. (Frankly, I don't want to know about ANYONE'S sex life for that matter.)

How is this so hard for so many folks to understand? If we're not FREE and SECURE in the PRIVACY of our own marriages, we've entered the POLICE STATE in the bedroom and everywhere else in our lives. Is this what you're endorsing?

I'm really trying to not be sarcastic in my response here, but do we ALL get this yet?

Obama and Axelrod USED the Media to CLEAR THE FIELD, using COURT ORDERS from a DEMOCRAT judge in California to SMEAR Jack and Geri Ryan, so they could clear the field for Obama.

We know this act, and what Obama/Axelrod are doing AGAIN in Washington DC is playing out against Gingrich, Santorum and Romney.

Do we ALL seriously NOT see this?

As to the tactics...getting the records released is secondary, IMO.

No, it's not. Tell you what, let's open up YOUR marriage and talk about all the things that YOU and YOUR spouse do in the bedroom - or elsewhere - and see what the rest of us find offensive so we can judge YOU. The fact is, we have zero business knowing about the inner workings of YOUR marriage, same as Jack and Geri Ryan.

He shouldn't have asked it of her in the first place, much less seek public office with that sort of thing lingering from his past.

He shouldn't have asked for SEX with his WIFE, in a specific situation, that's it? Really?

Tell me, if you can't reveal your innermost sexual desires to your SPOUSE, exactly who do you reveal them to?

Do you really expect people to consider the impacts to their political/business/personal careers or image when speaking about SEX to their SPOUSE?

Wow.

76 posted on 01/21/2012 6:49:15 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
The fact is, what two CONSENTING ADULTS do in the context of their PRIVATE MARRIAGE is THEIR BUSINESS and NOT YOURS, nor anyone elses.
What part of this do you NOT understand?

I don't have any problem understanding that.
What part of let's have sex in public do you not understand?
That's hardly "PRIVATE", is it?
81 posted on 01/21/2012 6:56:29 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: usconservative
Geri appears to have NOT CONSENTED.

I think that readily disposes of 90% of your argument.

Now, should that be any of our business? All I can say about that is she chose to take it to court.

84 posted on 01/21/2012 7:03:09 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: usconservative

Yes, the Illinois GOP behaved cravenly with Ryan, with enormous consequences.

The GOP has a bad reputation for not minding their own business, well deserved in this case.


94 posted on 01/21/2012 7:32:24 AM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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