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Salon Book Review: Zbig: Israelis “bought influence” and outmaneuvered Obama
Salon Book Review ^ | January 20, 2012 | By Jordan Michael Smith

Posted on 01/22/2012 6:03:57 PM PST by Nachum

I’m quite sure Brzezinski and Obama’s views on Israel are in complete alignment.

(Salon) — Zbigniew Brzezinski’s new book, “Strategic Vision,” imagines a world without American power. He envisions profound instability, faltering international cooperation and weak states falling prey to their more dominant neighbors. Describing the dystopia that would emerge if America goes under is a trick British historian Niall Ferguson pioneered. Unlike the jingoistic Ferguson, however, Brzezinski is able to envision China replacing America as the stabilizing force in world affairs. “I don’t think liberal states are more restrained or stabilizing,” he says. “The United States’ actions in the last 20 years, especially with the war in Iraq, do not give reassurance on that score.”

In a telephone interview from his office at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C., Brzezinski has both praise and criticism for the president: “He was an improvement by a very large score over his predecessor, but he could have been better.” He thinks the Obama administration “should have stuck to its guns in promoting a fair settlement” in the Middle East. A longtime foe of Israel’s partisans in the United States, he says the Obama team “fumbled by getting outmaneuvered by the Israelis.” Then he gets blunter: “Domestic politics interceded: The Israelis have a lot of influence with Congress, and in some cases they are able to buy influence.”

(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brzezinski; israelis; obama
Dr. Strangelove finally shouts his love for der Fuhrer.
1 posted on 01/22/2012 6:04:06 PM PST by Nachum
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2 posted on 01/22/2012 6:06:04 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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3 posted on 01/22/2012 6:09:22 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
Brzezinski was a Carter farter. No doubt he has access to the Usurper. They all hate Israel.
4 posted on 01/22/2012 6:10:32 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Nachum

How did this guy ever have a position of power and influence in American Government? He obviously wants America to be less, who the heck wants to pay money to read that. That he has the ear of the president and his daughter is an empty suit talking head influencing the public is a crime that should be rectified.


5 posted on 01/22/2012 6:10:41 PM PST by 1malumprohibitum
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To: Nachum

Ziggy needs to remember what happened when Stalin got mad...
50 million dead....
But then, again, that may be his mentor....


6 posted on 01/22/2012 6:11:00 PM PST by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
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To: Nachum

Ziggy needs to remember what happened when Stalin got mad...
50 million dead....
But then, again, that may be his mentor....


7 posted on 01/22/2012 6:11:27 PM PST by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
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To: Nachum

He wasn’t quite as vocal when he was in the Carter Administration. But it took RR to repair the damage done to our Military.


8 posted on 01/22/2012 6:14:59 PM PST by radioone
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To: Nachum

The crazed old Jew-hater vomits forth another pile of anti-semitic bilge.


9 posted on 01/22/2012 6:38:30 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Nachum

Zbig is just another Jew hating, Hitler saluting dick.


10 posted on 01/22/2012 6:53:40 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: Nachum

Lets see...this guy worked for....the Carter administration. That means he knows nothing about foreign policy. So his opinion is worth about as much as his knowledge....


11 posted on 01/22/2012 7:01:07 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: GenXteacher

Looks like he added America hating to the list. It amazes me that we have come to a point where people like this are given a pass and tolerated. Every American should ignore him and his daughter.


12 posted on 01/22/2012 7:19:53 PM PST by 1malumprohibitum
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To: GenXteacher
"Lets see...this guy worked for....the Carter administration"

As the article points out, Brzezenski is a foreign policy Realist. In fact, it is often said that Brzezenski, along with republicans Henry Kissinger and Brent Scowcroft, are known as the wisest of the wise old Realists.

The man who worked as Zbig's deputy under Carter also worked as Kissinger's deputy under Nixon and Scowcroft's deputy under GHW Bush.

This same man would later go on to serve at the Secretary level in both the GW Bush administration and the Obama administration

Do you know who this man is?

13 posted on 01/22/2012 7:20:39 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: chessplayer
Since I can't say it any better than you just did. I will second that.

Zbig is just another Jew hating, Hitler saluting dick.

14 posted on 01/22/2012 7:29:44 PM PST by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Robert Gates


15 posted on 01/22/2012 7:38:27 PM PST by kenavi (1% of the 1% were born in the 1%.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Who is the loser?


16 posted on 01/22/2012 7:38:55 PM PST by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: Ben Ficklin

You might be referring to Robert Gates....


17 posted on 01/22/2012 7:45:25 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Nachum

You do not need to read further than this line.....

“In a telephone interview from his office at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C.,”

AKA Toilet think tank


18 posted on 01/22/2012 7:48:25 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: kenavi; packrat35; GenXteacher; Walkingfeather
Robert Gates is the correct answer.

Walkingfeather points out the connection between Zbig and CSIS. CSIS was very influential in the convening of the Iraq Study Group in 2006 and there were two members of the Iraq Study Group, Bob Gates and Leon Panetta, who would serve as SecDef.

19 posted on 01/22/2012 8:19:00 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: 1malumprohibitum

Zbiggy appears to be a thread connecting the failed Carter foreign policy with the malignant Obama foreign policy: he was evidently Obama’s primary foreign policy advisory during the 2008 campaign!

His daughter needs a good spanking... heh!


20 posted on 01/22/2012 8:38:05 PM PST by Hetuck
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21 posted on 01/23/2012 5:33:40 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: SJackson

How about “Israelis Outmaneuvered Dumbo Without Even Breathing Hard”?


22 posted on 01/23/2012 8:31:59 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: musicman

another leftist fool. There may be a kernel of truth in the idea that the Iraq war didn’t turn out the way it was hoped - but to say that it is an example of America’s “destabilizing influence” is sheer poppycock. The whole ideology behind the war was to create more stability in the region. Today the left is creating destabilization because they took up opposition to the war as an ideological mission, rather than a political mission. Now as we are faced with revolution throughout the middle east and a nuclear armed Iran backing most of the revolutionary forces the left is paralyzed to inject any stabilizing measures... They literally support chaos as a result.


23 posted on 01/23/2012 8:23:32 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: Nachum

“Describing the dystopia that would emerge if America goes under is a trick British historian Niall Ferguson pioneered. Unlike the jingoistic Ferguson, however, Brzezinski is able to envision China replacing America as the stabilizing force in world affairs”

Zbig couldn’t wipe Ferguson’s boots. Further Ferguson sees America as an essential force of good in the world. The author translate that to “jingoistic.” Tells you where he’s coming from.


24 posted on 01/23/2012 9:44:16 PM PST by dervish (female candidates: the last frontier)
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