Posted on 01/22/2012 9:42:58 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
Mexico is a Catholic country and the great majority of them moving here are Catholic, the ones who convert to Protestant churches are not much of a problem because they then become more conservative, Bush got 56% of their vote in 2004, for instance, they appear to be about a 50/50 vote.
I disagree with your history, the actual history of the black vote is that it reversed itself in 1936, not the 1960s.
Blacks were solidly Republican, always, in 1932 everything was normal and Roosevelt got 23% of the black vote, then suddenly in 1936, the Democrats got 71% of the black vote, and it has been the same ever since.
Whatever happened, happened between 1932, and 1936.
I don't know whether we have any conservatives who fit the bill, but a Hispanic Catholic as Newt's Veep, and then as the later Presidential candidate could be the thing that breaks this Catholic Hispanic problem.
Rubio is Catholic, the Governor of New Mexico is Catholic, are they the right choice for conservatives? I don't know, I am only aware of them, I don't know their particulars, but the theory sure excites me.
Clearly they don't, we have more than a hundred years of history on this, Catholics are voting for the party and the issues that they support.
We have to figure out some way to seduce them into voting Republican, without becoming so moderate that we become Democrats ourselves, we will never make true right wingers out of the Catholic vote.
My understanding is there were two large waves of movement of black voters from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party, one under FDR and the other under LBJ.
The first move involved mostly Northern blacks simply because few Southern blacks were able to vote. I would need to do some research since I'm going by memory, but I understand a key part of the move involved a black Chicago Republican congressman who decided to jump ship from the Republican Party after the mobsters lost control of the Chicago mayor's post and control of both the mayor's seat and the aldermen turned to Democrats, with the beginning of what became the Chicago Machine.
Otherwise, the earlier shift was largely based on economics under FDR, who didn't particularly do much for black civil rights but provided money for poor people through social programs and had a wife who was well-known for being sympathetic to civil rights.
A significant portion of blacks remained Republicans until the 1950s and 1960s, but Nixon's Southern strategy pretty much ended a process that began with the period between the 1960 and 1964 elections.
LBJ understood this and countered it with the Immigration Reform Act of 1965, to elect a new people.
Black America choose the chains of socialism and the promise of government jobs for the few iun the 1960s. They wanted to be subserviant instead of free, so they became Democrats.
Some Northern blacks did not reverse a roughly 71% Republican national black vote in 1932, to a 71% national Democrat vote in 1936, and then keep the national black vote there ever since.
Party registration lagged some, but that is meaningless. Also, black militancy, black power, and aggressive racism in campaigning by Democrats, did take the 70 and 80% black vote to the 80 and 90% numbers, but that was also a part of simple trajectory and momentum, or modern black culture as created by the left.
Winters also complains that this action by Obama is just plain ol politically stupid and could imperil his presidency and destroy the progressive movement.
Leftists are leftists and this simpering wincing clod is still a baby killer calling himself a Catholic.
Madison was the leader of the House in he First Congress and he submitted a list of Amendments. It was sent to committee,modified, and then sent to the Senate, came back was further details, and then passed by both houses. I dont have a source right now, Just remembering.
* In 2006 Schumer and Emanuel engineered the House and Senate Takeover.
* Schumer noted in an interview, that they went from PA west and picked off districts all the way to IL ( and beyond)
* I found a map on the web (Wish I kept it), of these districts by religion.
* Many they picked off, the highest percentage were Catholic.
* Many were probably tired of "Bushes Wars" and may have been of the liberation theology wing of the church.
Fast forward to Obamacare and a small group of Nuns ( not really a voice of the church ) who gave their go ahead to Obamacare. Also at the time, I could smell it that it was a done deal and the Church needed the Stupak exemption to keep their Hospitals running. Well it looks like the Obamaton's didn't keep their words now did they..
However, now we have two Catholics running, Santorum and Mr. Newt, both Pro Life.
At this point, many Catholics, their kids and grand kids are hurting and can't find work. They know in their gut something is wrong with this guy and the country.
FWIW, I feel many of my Catholic friends are reasonable people. But what "he" has done to our country is unreasonable in fact might remind them of the horrors of Communism they learned in Catechism, it defies common sense and they finally see it.
Let hope they feel it in their heart when they go in the voting booth and vote like they did in Macomb County Michigan for Reagan, home of the Reagan Democrats, many who were Catholic. Let us hope lightning strikes twice..
You are saying that the Levite priests dressed like Babylonian? Because a bishops miter is very like that of the Jewish high priest. As for the gowns, well, the Lord prescribed their dress and it sounds a lot like that worn by a Catholic bishop.
But as for the rest, just old-fashioned Guy Fawkes claptrap.
American anti-Catholicism has its roots in the Protestantism of the settlers of the English colonies. Catholicism was proscribed in almost all the colonies, excepting Pennsylvania and Rhode Island.
The bishops have as a matter of record favored big government intervention in social care. Now they are reaping what they sowed. They ignored the significance of the appointment of a pro-choice zealot as secretary of HHS and giving her the power to define the conscience exemption. He has predictably used that power to try to force Catholic institutions to submit to the dictates of her conscience. The bishops ought to have protested her appointment, but they wanted that federal funding too much. Now they are going to have to choose between their faith and the money.
It is my understanding (and I might be mistaken) is that the Southern Strategy didn't actually exist. One such article refuting it recently appeared here on Free Republic:
ANOTHER LIBERAL LIE EXPOSED: The Myth of the Southern Strategy.
What strikes me is..
* 501c3's have an excellent record, ie Credit Unions and Faith based Organizations and Churches.
* They are natural groups.
* Natural Groups can offer insurance.
* Why they are not offering a low cost high deductible HSA type plan for un-ininsured in their flock is beyond me.
Yes it is not everything under their umbrella of "social care" but they probably would do a better job than anything Fedzilla touches.
They blew their chance to change America, for the better in not even thinking of this as an alternative to Obamacare. ( ditto that Congress, especially my critter who I shared the idea with, at least a staffer)...
Way back when, I was what they called a Commonweal Catholic, a supporter of guys like Gene McCarthy et al. I didnt see what was going on, which was a veritable anti-Roman revolt. Oh, they didnt attack the pope. They approved of his move toward the socialists and even the Communist powers, but when Humanae Vitae came out, they went ape. Rejected it out of hand. Laity, priests, even bishops. Refused to preach it, refused to take adequate action against open dissenters. Fact is that many priests had been telling women for years that the Church was about to change its stance on birth control.Liberal priests were sitting down with Planned Parenthood types, agreeing that the pill probably would solve the problems of illegitimacy, abortion, and poverty, if only widely distributed. ETC.
An alarm went off in my head, though, when John Cogley, the editor of Commonweal resigned and announced he was joining the Episcopal Church. At least he was honest. But many other Catholics just said non serviam to Rome and continued to carry on as if they were still Catholics. The rituals were changed, the old catechisms were thrown out, and replaced by wooley-minded new-agey stuff. All of this change was ignored by the bishops who saw their whole ship taking on water and the crew jumping overboard. It was then that the social-justice people provided them with a way to save face. Such people have dominated the chanceries ever since.
>>Catholicism was proscribed
Uhuh. By falible and uninspired me who had assumed dominion over the faith of others - just as other theocratic/occult tyrant eunuchs had been doing for 3000 plus years in various empirical plumage.
>>the Lord prescribed their dress
Did the Lord prescribe their Ity Bity pointee hats as well? Mormonism, America’s Islam, is full of bee shyte too. Bzzzzzzz.
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=Bity+Sedge+Bee
Here comes the sun, doo doo doo doo.
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