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Following New EU Sanctions, Iran Says Closing The Strait Of Hormuz Is Now Its Legal Right
TBI ^ | 1-23-3012 | Robert johnson

Posted on 01/23/2012 7:26:04 AM PST by blam

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To: blam

Nice pic, I followed the link to her wiki page and discovered that she has 16inch guns. Wow, she is a big girl. I thought only Iowa class had 16 inch guns. I love big guns.


21 posted on 01/23/2012 9:40:02 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Tallguy
My father served on the Missouri during its refurbishing, and after its recommissioning, in the 1980s, and he kept me apprised of some of the things that were being done to her. He and the 'Mighty Mo' were stationed on the west coast, and I was attending school on the east coast at the time, but on one of his visits home to the Norfolk area, he made arrangements to take me on a very thorough tour of the USS Iowa. It was, quite simply, the most impressive U.S. Navy ship I have ever been aboard, and that includes the USS Nimitz and USS Eisenhower.

To augment the seemingly impossibly thick armor and those famous mammoth 16" guns, the Navy outfitted the modernized Iowa-Class battleships with some REALLY cool 'toys' that were not available during WW-II, or even the Vietnam era: things like four Phalanx platforms to help assure that no anti-ship missiles would get even within a few miles of the ship, never mind testing its armor; Harpoon and/or Tomahawk missiles; and modern electronic tracking/monitoring/countermeasures equipment.

When the modernizations of the Missouri and her three sister ships were completed they were most definitely not "your grandfather's battleships". Even today I would doubt Iran has anything in its arsenal that could cause them significant harm.

22 posted on 01/23/2012 10:40:08 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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It is my understanding that the Iowas had to be decommsioned because their hulls were thinning due to electrolysis. Building a new BB with modern gunnery with be very expensive but modern 16inch guns could I am told hit targets 100 miles away. Something to think about.


23 posted on 01/23/2012 10:46:25 AM PST by jpsb
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To: GonzoGOP
I suppose there will be battleship guys till the end of time.

The now banished FReeper Non Sequitur advised me to get the book Shattered Sword, The untold story of the Battle of Midway

It is perhaps the best description of the mindset and preparedness of the Japanese Navy out there. It also details the nearly by minute operations of both of the adversaries and denies much of what is thought to be gospel. The replacement is based on many many reports and sources. It refutes the tale of the Japanese officer on which most of the gospel is based.

The good part is the detailed description of the Japanese Navy

24 posted on 01/23/2012 11:00:21 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: jpsb
I had not heard the “hulls thinning due to electrolysis” story. I heard they were decommissioned to save money in the post-Cold War atmosphere.

In any event, I would not think it would be too difficult, or expensive, to design and implement some form of cathodic protection system to slow/halt the electrolytic deterioration of ships’ hulls.

25 posted on 01/23/2012 11:02:55 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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Our tour of the Missouri included the control systems. Positively ancient equipment from WW 2 was side by side to modern missile delivery electronics.

They can still fire the 16 inch guns, good for 20-22 miles but the real whoopass could be launched from > 100 miles out.

26 posted on 01/23/2012 11:29:31 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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You are of course correct, and I dated myself terribly with my remarks - I stand ashamed and properly castigated.

We’d still mop the floor in a few days and establish air superiority (pout) :’-(


27 posted on 01/23/2012 11:37:01 AM PST by reed13k (Knight Rampant Bibliophile, Protector of Knowledge, Purveyor of Inquiry, Defender of Aged Wisdom, an)
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28 posted on 01/23/2012 1:26:04 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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