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The GOP Deserves to Lose
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Jan 24, 2012 | Bret Stephens

Posted on 01/24/2012 6:31:02 AM PST by KeyLargo

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To: KeyLargo
Absolutely yes is this the best the GOP can put up against as distinguished and accomplished opponent as Barack Obama?

Just go roll into the fetal position somewhere Mr Stephens. In the fight against creeping socialism guys like you are absolutely NO help at all.

61 posted on 01/24/2012 7:12:31 AM PST by skeeter
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To: KeyLargo
I have no disagreement with Mr. Stephens opinion about the current GOP field. :(

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Well, bully for you.

62 posted on 01/24/2012 7:13:01 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

“Some people should perhaps consider reading the full article before commenting on it. In this case, the author positively nails Romney:”

Thank you.

As usual some freepers just read the title of a post and make all of their learned expert conclusions from that alone.

I posted the opinion article to stimulate some actual thought amongst most intelligent freepers instead of the usual and expected flame responses.


63 posted on 01/24/2012 7:14:47 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Starboard

They don’t call the GOP the stupid party for a reason.


64 posted on 01/24/2012 7:17:40 AM PST by gusty
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To: KeyLargo

Mr Gingrich nailed it when he said,
“I think the destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country, harder to attract decent people to run for public office.”

The calculating sychophantic media’s savage attacks, as well as the coordinated effots to overwhelm her with ethics charges on(as they did with Mr Gingrich) Mrs Palin quite possibly been the President.


65 posted on 01/24/2012 7:23:41 AM PST by Leep (It's gonna be a Newt day!)
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To: andy58-in-nh

But all the RINO’s are hollow. Christie loves sharia law, gun control and his historic gay appointments.

Mitch had nothing to say on the death of Osama bin Laden. Truly remarkable...does this guy even have a soul?
Nothing to say on any foreign policy issue. Truce on social issues. Oh and remember that the first thing ‘super fiscal conservative’ Mitch tried to do was to try to raise taxes. The legislature shut that down.

Jeb Bush. Yeah. Another Bush. OK who comes up with these ‘winners’?


66 posted on 01/24/2012 7:24:51 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: ari-freedom
The guy that wants social conservatives to sit down and shut up, that guy?

The little bald dwarf with the personality of a mop bucket, that guy?

67 posted on 01/24/2012 7:25:31 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: KeyLargo
I think Stephens is unfortunately right. Newt clearly has the fire in the belly and would seriously stick it to Obama in debates, but he has baggage that the Obama smear machine would be happy to exploit to convince voters Newt is too flawed. Romney cannot get traction with large numbers of voters because he is too milquetoast. His speeches are reminiscent of an Al Gore lecture and even in the heat of the debate he lacks any serious sign of fire or conviction. Romney is also a moderate who in the past has favored ideas far too liberal for mainstream America let alone the conservative base of the party. A Romney nomination would be a reply of Obama vs. McCain. Santorum is a nice guy but in his sweater reminds me of Mr. Rogers both in looks and his vision of America as a neighborhood where everyone brushes their teeth and goes to church on Sunday. Ron Paul is simply in La-la land with ideas that mostly appeal to a few on the fringe.

I haven't given up and none of the candidates are anywhere near the number of delegates to get the nomination. I just hope that there is someone out in GOP land who can ride in on a white horse and save the day or our Republic will have to endure another four years of Obama and may never in my lifetime recover its greatness or worse still becone a Marxist state.

68 posted on 01/24/2012 7:26:08 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: Leep

edited:

Was it not for calculated sychophantic media’s savage attacks, as well as the coordinated effots to overwhelm her with ethics charges on(as they did with Mr Gingrich btw) Mrs Palin would have quite possibly been our next President.


69 posted on 01/24/2012 7:28:47 AM PST by Leep (It's gonna be a Newt day!)
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To: Maverick68
If the GOP loses, America is frakked....

I don't know ... most of our big policies (and policy problems) are thoroughly bi-partisan in their character, and ultimately will be bi-partisan in their resolution. This doesn't mean the solution is kumbaya-ing across the aisle, it means that one party will take a strong stand that ultimately draws the other party from opposition, to ambivalence, to support (however begrudging).

This means to me that what's more important than winning in 2012 is making 2012 a pivot about ideas that solve problems. It would be worse for Romney to win as an (effectively) status quo candidate than for Gingrich to lose with a strong program to make Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security solvent in a way that is politically acceptable to senior citizens and doesn't tax away the opportunity and incentive for risk-taking and hard work. (Not that he actually has such a program at the present, but one can always hope ... and, who knows, maybe Romney could come up with such a program.)
70 posted on 01/24/2012 7:29:29 AM PST by only1percent
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To: KeyLargo

I read this last night and woke up thinking about it. I err worried that this is exactly what all the elitist neo - cons are thinking, the Republican establishment types, who have bought into the progressive big government mentality because they have no respect for average social conservative. They think that we need them more than they need us. They pretty much hate us.

Think about the fact that Romney turned to McCain’s debate coach for help last night. Then think about what the McCain staff said about Sarah Palindrome and you will know what direction Mitt is moving - It’s not to the right.


71 posted on 01/24/2012 7:31:10 AM PST by Eva
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To: rbmillerjr

Did Mr. Stephens wake up this morning in William Kristol’s bed...with Bill next to him?

Let’s start a pool:

Who’s the next media-elite to call for the Romeny-Daniels switcheroo?

I call Krauthammer!


72 posted on 01/24/2012 7:33:23 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Logic n' Reason

Calls renew for Mitch Daniels to enter presidential race

11:42 PM 01/22/2012

After the first three electoral contests for the Republican nomination have produced three different winners, some Republicans unsatisfied with the Republican field are calling for Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels to jump into the race.

An online petition for the Indiana governor to “Run, Mitch, Run!” launched at 8 p.m. Saturday evening, shortly after former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was declared the winner of the South Carolina primary.

Over 1,000 people have since signed the petition to date.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/22/calls-renew-for-mitch-daniels-to-enter-presidential-race/#ixzz1kODBTA6O


73 posted on 01/24/2012 7:35:25 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: gusty

“...the GOP the stupid party for a reason.”

Democrats play to win. The GOP “team” has nice uniforms, touts a good game plan, and plays by the rules but they fail to execute and rarely win the big games. They would rather look good on the field than do what it takes to win. The Dems play dirty and do not hesitate to engage in “unsportsmanlike conduct” to sideline the best GOP players. The refs are sympathetic to the Dems and turn a blind eye to their underhanded tactics. The bleechers on the Dem side of the field are filled with rabid fans that delight in taunting their opponents.


74 posted on 01/24/2012 7:36:18 AM PST by Starboard
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To: The Great RJ

“..but he [gingrich] has baggage that the Obama smear machine would be happy to exploit..”

I think if anyone can take on the smear machine it is Gingrich. Lets not forget Obama has his own baggage. F&F,Solyndra ect..he has created massive debt and has little to show for it.
He is no longer the unknown interesting mysterious guy “with the big ears and funny name”
Not to mention the “blame Bush” bit isn’t going to have the punch it did.


75 posted on 01/24/2012 7:43:12 AM PST by Leep (It's gonna be a Newt day!)
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To: Starboard

Agreed! I should also add that I think who constitutes the “A-list” is a matter of perception. Another poster mentioned Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln was hardly an “A-lister” in any sence of the term prior to taking office. But then the Republican Party was more of a movement-turned-party and probably wasn’t as concerned with personality & perception.


76 posted on 01/24/2012 7:47:01 AM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: KeyLargo
The GOP Deserves to Lose

Possibly, but then we take the stance "The Country Be Damned"? and believe me, after another four years of the kenyan, it will be!

77 posted on 01/24/2012 7:47:10 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Arm_Bears
glad I stopped taking the WSJ

Likewise, although I now resort to dumpsterdiving at the local recycle center for newsprint to light the stove every morning...
78 posted on 01/24/2012 7:52:49 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: cuban leaf

Nicely put. I assume you are talking about the financial can.


79 posted on 01/24/2012 7:53:25 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: KeyLargo
What a crock. Any of the current crop of GOP contenders would be a vast improvement over the Kenyan. Hell, any of the ones who have left the race would be as well. Let's just summarize who is left.

Newt-- he may be a narcissistic egomaniac and unable to control his schlong. But, at age 68, I think it quite possible that his schlong doesn't rule him the way it used to. And, wow, he does pump out great ideas! Even if he can only get a small fraction of them implemented, the country can move forward.

Mitt-- he may be a RINO. But even RINOs understand a healthy private sector is absolutely necessary to provide the revenues necessary to fund the nanny state. Giuliani, for all his faults, did a respectable job as mayor of New York. Romney is of the same mold.

Santorum-- he may be a long shot. But he voted with conservatives 88% of the time during his 14 years in congress. I find his occasional excursions into populist economic theory far less damaging than ObaMao's infatuation with social justice. Plus some of them are actually sensible-- such as increasing the tax deduction for a legitimate child so that it is at least on par with the government revenues flowing to an illegitimate child. Further, his blue collar roots and compassion are more likely to win votes in swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania than an intellectual geek like Newt or a blue blood like Romney.

Ron Paul-- Yeah, he is as crazy as a sh*thouse rat when it comes to foreign policy. Isolationism is not a good long-term strategy. But if his domestic policy plans of reducing government drastically reach fruition, then we will get economic growth and be much more able to rebuild and rearm once isolationism has run its course.

ObaMao will do none of the above and, in fact, actively anything positive each of the four remaining contenders could actually bring to the office. That's the bottom line.

80 posted on 01/24/2012 7:53:34 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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