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The GOP Deserves to Lose
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Jan 24, 2012 | Bret Stephens

Posted on 01/24/2012 6:31:02 AM PST by KeyLargo

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

JANUARY 24, 2012 By Bret Stephens

The GOP Deserves to Lose That's what happens when you run with losers.

Let's just say right now what voters will be saying in November, once Barack Obama has been re-elected: Republicans deserve to lose.

It doesn't matter that Mr. Obama can't get the economy out of second gear. It doesn't matter that he cynically betrayed his core promise as a candidate to be a unifying president. It doesn't matter that he keeps blaming Bush. It doesn't matter that he thinks ATMs are weapons of employment destruction. It doesn't matter that Tim Geithner remains secretary of Treasury. It doesn't matter that the result of his "reset" with Russia is Moscow selling fighter jets to Damascus. It doesn't matter that the Obama name is synonymous with the most unpopular law in memory. It doesn't matter that his wife thinks America doesn't deserve him. It doesn't matter that the Evel Knievel theory of fiscal stimulus isn't going to make it over the Snake River Canyon of debt.

Above all, it doesn't matter that Americans are generally eager to send Mr. Obama packing. All they need is to be reasonably sure that the alternative won't be another fiasco. But they can't be reasonably sure, so it's going to be four more years of the disappointment you already know.

Is this the best they can do?

As for the current GOP field, it's like confronting a terminal diagnosis. There may be an apparent range of treatments: conventional (Romney), experimental (Gingrich), homeopathic (Paul) or prayerful (Santorum). But none will avail you in the end. Just try to exit laughing.

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KEYWORDS: 2012; candidates; defeatists; election; gop; whiner
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I have no disagreement with Mr. Stephens opinion about the current GOP field. :(
1 posted on 01/24/2012 6:31:09 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz


2 posted on 01/24/2012 6:35:35 AM PST by Mustang Driver
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To: KeyLargo

Stephens is an ass.


3 posted on 01/24/2012 6:36:16 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: KeyLargo
I do. The GOP doesn't lose. The American people do. I do. I do not "deserve to lose" no matter WHO is running against Obama. So the Belgians "deserved to lose" because they couldn't put up a better army against Hitler? Did the Chinese "deserve to lose" a quarter of a million people because their armies couldn't unite against Japan?

This logic by the writer is lame. OBAMA DESERVES TO LOSE.

4 posted on 01/24/2012 6:36:57 AM PST by LS
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To: KeyLargo

It’s January not July. I call articles like this premature ejurkulation. Defeatism is a sure sign of incompetence. President Perfect isn’t going to happen, but if we box in these squishy bastards we may well save the nation.
The alternative is a Communist Dictatorship. It’s time to quit whining and start pressing. (See my tagline.)


5 posted on 01/24/2012 6:37:29 AM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: KeyLargo

A lot of water is going to flow under the bridge between now and November. It’s why I don’t think Obama will finish his term, regardless of who the republican candidate is.

I think it is possible that this year’s presidential election will not be the main news of the year. It will be the “B” side.


6 posted on 01/24/2012 6:38:22 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: KeyLargo
That's my theory for why South Carolina gave Newt Gingrich his big primary win on Saturday: Voters instinctively prefer the idea of an entertaining Newt-Obama contest—the aspiring Caesar versus the failed Redeemer—over a dreary Mitt-Obama one. The problem is that voters also know that Gaius Gingrich is liable to deliver his prime-time speeches in purple toga while holding tight to darling Messalina's—sorry, Callista's—bejeweled fingers. A primary ballot for Mr. Gingrich is a vote for an entertaining election, not a Republican in the White House.

What an airhead. Apparently this guy just knows better than all of the Tea Party folks who have changed the face of the electorate in 2010. So he trashes them as being more interested in entertainment than in changing DC.

7 posted on 01/24/2012 6:38:42 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: KeyLargo

Yet another frightened lib troll…


8 posted on 01/24/2012 6:39:05 AM PST by bksanders (I think I just had my backslashed on a carriage return)
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To: Mustang Driver

So glad I stopped taking the WSJ . . . and Forbes . . . and Barrons . . .


9 posted on 01/24/2012 6:39:40 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Journalists first; then lawyers.)
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To: KeyLargo

I’m sick of this fatalist attitude being perpetuated out there and even here. Any one of our candidates including Paul would be infinitely better than the fraud we have now. Period.


10 posted on 01/24/2012 6:40:08 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: KeyLargo

So just who is the mythical, magical savior of the GOP? It’s easy to criticize any field of candidates. There was a time when the WSJ was above this sort of dreck.

In 2008, the Dems had a minority candidate with no experience and nothing but “hope” and a woman who married her way into a political position, with no real accomplishments of her own.


11 posted on 01/24/2012 6:40:48 AM PST by CASchack
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To: KeyLargo

The GOP does “deserve to lose”.

Except that America can not suffer four more years of Obama. The nation as whole does not deserve that.

(The people who vote for Obama deserve Obama...if only the disasterous effects of the Socialist moron could be delivered upon them selectively.)


12 posted on 01/24/2012 6:41:19 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: cuban leaf

“A lot of water is going to flow under the bridge between now and November. It’s why I don’t think Obama will finish his term, regardless of who the republican candidate is.”

I hope that you are correct.


13 posted on 01/24/2012 6:41:34 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

I would rather have the unknown of a GOP winner, than the known and second term and unbridled Obama communism for all. Americans will be the biggest and regretful losers if Obama wins a second term.


14 posted on 01/24/2012 6:42:06 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: KeyLargo
Another hand wringing Wall Street metrosexual.


Fight like a man!
15 posted on 01/24/2012 6:42:27 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: KeyLargo
Republicans deserve to lose.

Maybe, but nobody deserves four more years of bowing to the god of Affirmative Action while losing the country to Socialism.

16 posted on 01/24/2012 6:42:43 AM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: KeyLargo

I can’t stand this self-abuse from so-called Republicans. The field is what it is. Newt was Speaker of the House, Santorum a Senator, Romney a Governor - in terms of experience and ability to even run a national campaign, these are the people who are at the top.

Do people like Stephens think we are going to be blessed with some super-hero, who comes down from the sky as genius and natural orator, but has never been dirtied by actually being involved in politics?


17 posted on 01/24/2012 6:42:43 AM PST by PGR88
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To: LS

You hit this one right on. The American people can’t afford to lose. If Obama wins this race, our country will fall like a ton of bricks. The people that vote for him will finally find out what he is really like. You’d think they would have learned by now but many haven’t.


18 posted on 01/24/2012 6:43:38 AM PST by RC2
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To: KeyLargo
Don't waste your time. I wasted mine instead. Why anyone would think this article was worth posting is beyond me.

Poorly written and nonsensical.

19 posted on 01/24/2012 6:44:31 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: LS
The GOP doesn't lose. The American people do.

Amen bro and pass the plate. Anyone who starts an article, or a FR post for that matter, with what the "GOP deserves" or so on, I tune it out because it is written by someone who simply does not get it. It's not about the GOP, it's about US- and the GOP is simply that which stands between us and rapid certain destruction.

And another thing: dweebs like this were saying the same thing about Reagan at this point. Another good reason to tune them out.

20 posted on 01/24/2012 6:44:38 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: CASchack
"So just who is the mythical, magical savior of the GOP? It’s easy to criticize any field of candidates. There was a time when the WSJ was above this sort of dreck."

This guy.
21 posted on 01/24/2012 6:44:38 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: KeyLargo

You post this - then essentially agree with it? The writer sounds like some 80’s gay queen looking down his nose at folks who don’t eat sprouts. What a boring, predictable, nose in the air load of yawn.


22 posted on 01/24/2012 6:45:09 AM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Arm_Bears

“So glad I stopped taking the WSJ”

****

Canceled WSJ yesterday. Annoyed by their open borders stance. Final straw was their support of both Mittens and SOPA.


23 posted on 01/24/2012 6:45:54 AM PST by peyton randolph (Mitt has more views on an issue than he has pairs of magic underpants)
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To: KeyLargo
"Finally, there are the men not in the field: Mitch Daniels, Paul Ryan, Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, Haley Barbour.
This was the GOP A-Team, the guys who should have showed up to the first debate but didn't because running for president is hard and the spouses were reluctant.
Nothing commends them for it. If this election is as important as they all say it is, they had a duty to step up.
Abraham Lincoln did not shy from the contest of 1860 because of Mary Todd.
If Mr. Obama wins in November—or, rather, when he does—the failure will lie as heavily on their shoulders as it will with the nominee."
What a pathetic piece of "journalism" from a pathetic piece of a "journalist"…

You'll have plenty to cry over upon Newt's landslide victory.

Cc: bstephens@wsj.com

24 posted on 01/24/2012 6:46:59 AM PST by bksanders (I think I just had my backslashed on a carriage return)
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To: peyton randolph

“Canceled WSJ yesterday. Annoyed by their open borders stance. Final straw was their support of both Mittens and SOPA.”

Illegals in, internet out. It’s a weird sort of fascist ultra-libertarian.


25 posted on 01/24/2012 6:47:30 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: KeyLargo

The writer will wake up the day after the election, and he’ll have to write a column explaining how the American people were so wrong to fire Obama and elected the GOP candidate who “deserved to lose”.

The writer has no understanding about how angry the American people feel right now, and how that anger is just going to be increasing until the election. The writer needs to get out of his ivory tower and get out amongst the people, and I do mean the real people, not the crowd he hangs out with.

The writer is either completely ignorant about how much the American people are seeking to replace Obama, or he’s just making stupid statements in the hope of making things happen.


26 posted on 01/24/2012 6:47:41 AM PST by adorno (<)
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To: KeyLargo

This whole “bad GOP field” assumption is like the “bush tax cuts didn’t work” assumptive question thrown at Mitt last night.

The fact is, the field was not that bad. Is not that bad. It’s also not that good, but there is not much of a bench from which to pull candidates. And the Dems had the same problem in 2008. Look at Obama’s congressional record in 2008 compared to Newt’s now. Which one has more accomplishment? Which one is more qualified?

The problem is that anyone that REALLY could do a bang up job as president is not stupid enough to run for the office. The quality of the congress is not what it was, and the governors have similar problems because so many of them, even the Republicans, have abandoned their conservative roots.

The pool is just low quality, and its gonna bite us. And only part of that “bite” is in who gets elected (as in 2008) but, more importantly, what those elected end up doing in office.

What’s bad about electing the fox to be the keeper of the hen house is what he does once elected. And Gignrich, the front runner, is the closest thing we have to a conservative, but he’s no conservative.

Fortunately, the whold bureaucracy is about to collapse of its own weight so it doesn’t matter all that much WHO is elected. The only ones that have a chance of coming out of this relatively unscathed is the preppers, not any voters.

It’s time to revisit Claire Wolfe.


27 posted on 01/24/2012 6:47:42 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: KeyLargo

Go look at stories from 2008 about 0 and Hillary.

The dems were openly talking disaster in 2008 because McCain was running away with it while they were bickering.


28 posted on 01/24/2012 6:48:42 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: bksanders

Pardon me but did he just say Haley Barbour?


29 posted on 01/24/2012 6:48:50 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: KeyLargo

No it doesn’t


30 posted on 01/24/2012 6:49:04 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: KeyLargo

According to this author, a Speaker who oversaw major tax reform and reduction, a balanced budget, and served while the economy was flying is a joke, but Obama’s poverty express is worthy of four more years. Enough of this stuff. Newt has his clear weaknesses, but we saw great results and strong economic growth during the four years when Gingrich was Speaker.


31 posted on 01/24/2012 6:49:41 AM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: cuban leaf

Ok. At least tell us if your prediction is based on a known unknown or an unknown unknown.


32 posted on 01/24/2012 6:49:57 AM PST by ngat
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To: cuban leaf

“What’s bad about electing the fox to be the keeper of the hen house is what he does once elected. And Gignrich, the front runner, is the closest thing we have to a conservative, but he’s no conservative.”

Unlike Reagan and W Bush, Newt actually balanced the budget and eliminated a welfare entitlement.


33 posted on 01/24/2012 6:51:13 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: KeyLargo

Finally, there are the men not in the field: Mitch Daniels, Paul Ryan, Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, Haley Barbour. This was the GOP A-Team
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Says who?

These guys haven’t faced months of scrutiny and attacks by the MSM like the candidates we have, had to. Who knows what the MSM would have dug up on them.

Christie is no Conservative
Jeb Bush—is a Bush. haven’t we seen enough of them?
Haley Barbour just pardoned Murderers.
Daniels and Ryan excercised their right not to get into this mess.

We have to go with what we have and Newt IMO is the cream of that crop.

What Republicans deserve is a level playing field.
That is exactly what they will not get.

The Media is owned and operated by the Democrats.
There will be no investigations of Obama’s alledged bi-sexuality, no investigations of his college records, No investigations of his illegal campaign funds or his traveling around campaigning on Air Foce One for free. No investigations ,no investigations of his allegiances to Rezco,or Bill Ayres, or to SEIU and his sellouts to Unions.

Meanwhile the MSM will be crucifying whoever is the front runner in the GOP.


34 posted on 01/24/2012 6:51:25 AM PST by Venturer
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

“Except that America can not suffer four more years of Obama. The nation as whole does not deserve that.”

Agreed.

I don’t mind the flames or accusations of being a ‘troll’ because I posted this opinion column.

Actually for the past ten years as a freeper I was seriously feeling left out because I was never called a ‘troll’ before.:)


35 posted on 01/24/2012 6:51:39 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

I think the essential problem with American presidential politics is the assumed advantage the incumbent brings to his re-election campaign. The party that doesn’t control the Whitehouse is pulled in 2 different directions — capturing the Whitehouse, or control of Congress.

Right now you’d have to say that A-list Republican presidential contenders would rather wait another 4 years and that Congressional leaders are fixated on capturing the senate. The assumption underpining both strategies is that the incumbent usually gets re-elected.

Romney is the “place-holder” nominee for the Republican leadership more concerned with winning seats in Congress. Perhaps they think that Obama will be a lame-duck the moment he gets re-elected? I suggest that Obama’s playing footsie with the OWS movement suggests his willingness to put mobs in the streets. Therefore, the priority needs to shift to defeating Obama himself.


36 posted on 01/24/2012 6:52:02 AM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: KeyLargo

Bravo Sierra of the highest order.


37 posted on 01/24/2012 6:52:59 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Romney ruined Massachusetts. Now he wants to ruin the nation.)
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To: KeyLargo
Some people should perhaps consider reading the full article before commenting on it. In this case, the author positively nails Romney:

"The usual rap on Mr. Romney is that he's robotic, but the real reason he can't gain traction with voters is that they suspect he's concealing some unnameable private doubt. Al Gore and George Bush Sr. were like that, too, and not just because they were all to the proverbial manor born. It's that they were basically hollow men."

38 posted on 01/24/2012 6:53:28 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: bksanders

“Finally, there are the men not in the field: Mitch Daniels, Paul Ryan, Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, Haley Barbour.
This was the GOP A-Team,...”

At least the writer told us who his “A-team” is, although I think he threw in the Mississippian as a pander.


39 posted on 01/24/2012 6:54:52 AM PST by ngat
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To: KeyLargo

“All they need is to be reasonably sure that the alternative won’t be another fiasco. But they can’t be reasonably sure, so it’s going to be four more years of the disappointment you already know.”

This doesn’t make any sense. they can’t be “reasonably” sure that it won’t be another fiasco, so will stick with the fiasco we have.

Sooo... if one was on the RMS Titanic, they need not jump into a lifeboat. Because one couldn’t be reasonably sure that one would be rescued and would ultimately suffer the same fate had one stayed on board. Right?


40 posted on 01/24/2012 6:55:11 AM PST by ILS21R (Never give up.)
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To: Venturer
We have to go with what we have and Newt IMO is the cream of that crop.

Where have I heard this before?????

Oh yeh...I remember.....

It was pre-general election, 2008; "We have to go with what we have and McCain IMO is the cream of that crop!"

Seems the rinos - yet again - are going to manage to snatch defeat from the very jaws of victory.

It's been said that against the stain, a sponge should be able to win...and win big!

I guess we're going to see, aren't we?

As for me???

Come Nov. 6th, I shall proudly and resolutely march into the voting booth and with as much vigor as a hanging chad will permit, vote AGAINST the stain.

It's that simple.

41 posted on 01/24/2012 6:56:51 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (N/A)
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To: KeyLargo

This guy clearly is spoon fed his opinions by his peers and basically regurgitated them in this useless waste of bandwidth.


42 posted on 01/24/2012 6:57:26 AM PST by Round 9
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To: andy58-in-nh

“The usual rap on Mr. Romney is that he’s robotic, but the real reason he can’t gain traction with voters is that they suspect he’s concealing some unnameable private doubt. “

Nope. It’s because he’s another limpwristed RINO. But Stephens can’t admit that because otherwise Mitch Daniels, Christie, etc wouldn’t be on his A team.


43 posted on 01/24/2012 6:57:26 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: KeyLargo

This is Horse Hockeys.

Who does he want us to run, Harold Stassen?


44 posted on 01/24/2012 6:58:38 AM PST by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengence is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: PGR88

IMO a lot of the bickering and backbiting can be attributed to these ridiculous marathon debates that have degenerated into a political circus. Instead of the field focusing on removing Obama from office and turning the country around, every week turns into a circular firing squad, with a gleeful media providing the guns. These endless “debates” have got to rank up there with one of the greatest political blunders of all time. We need to find out who enabled this fiasco so it never happens again.


45 posted on 01/24/2012 7:00:18 AM PST by Starboard
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To: KeyLargo

Stephens is a friggin moron. We can run Mickey Mouse and MM is more worthy of the WH than Obama.


46 posted on 01/24/2012 7:01:27 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: KeyLargo
Finally, there are the men not in the field: Mitch Daniels, Paul Ryan, Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, Haley Barbour. This was the GOP A-Team, the guys who should have showed up to the first debate but didn't because running for president is hard and the spouses were reluctant. Nothing commends them for it.

When Jeb Bush,Chris Christie, and Haley Barbour are the GOP's A team, then it explains why Newt appears to be the frontrunner.

47 posted on 01/24/2012 7:01:42 AM PST by Biblebelter
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To: ngat

Unknown. It’s based on reading history and following human nature.

I think we’ve been in August of 1939 for some time, and this year will be September of 1939. The world governments and the government of the US have been kicking the can down the road for too long as the problems get bigger and bigger. And every time they kick the can it is heavier and goes a shorter distance.

I think they will kick it several times this winter/spring, but I think they will be unsuccessful at kicking it out of this year. A hundred years of chickens are coming home to roost, and it is about to happen on Obama’s watch, and, him being the most inexperienced and poorly qualified in the history of the US, this will be very bad for the US, and for him.

He will not finish his term.


48 posted on 01/24/2012 7:03:01 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ILS21R

Wow...too much coffee.

They / they
We’ll / will

Hope there aren’t anymore.


49 posted on 01/24/2012 7:04:00 AM PST by ILS21R (Never give up.)
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To: KeyLargo
There's nothing wrong with the current GOP field of candidates. The elite media liberal and conservative always go off when their chosen one falters Sorry about that...this is how the process works.The voters in the primaries choose the candidate and then the voters in the general choose the president. I'm tired of the hand wringing when we choose. Any of these candidates are far better than the first idiot occupying the office currently. Zero makes Jimmuh Carter look like a genius. Any of these candidates can beat him if the people just use their heads.When people on this site declare if a certain candidate gets nominated they will sit home that's the problem.
50 posted on 01/24/2012 7:04:16 AM PST by ontap
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