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Obama: Millionaires Should Pay At Least 30 Percent in Taxes [No Deductions: Households Over $250k]
MSNBC ^ | January 24, 2012 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 01/24/2012 9:27:43 PM PST by Steelfish

Obama: Millionaires Should Pay At Least 30 Percent in Taxes By Michael O'Brien

People earning over $1 million per year should pay an effective tax rate of no less than 30 percent, President Obama said in his State of the Union address Tuesday night.

The president laid down one of his most political markers of the annual policy speech by crafting what he called the "Buffett Rule," named after the famous billionaire investor.

The president calls for lower taxes on lower-income wage earners but asks for wealthier taxpayers to pay more.

"Tax reform should follow the Buffett rule: If you make more than $1 million a year, you should not pay less than 30 percent in taxes," Obama said.

The president also said that Americans earning over $250,000 per year should also no longer be able to claim special tax breaks or deductions; he said households earning under $250,000 shouldn't face a tax increase.

"You can call this class warfare all you want," Obama said. "But asking a billionaire to pay at least as much as his secretary in taxes? Most Americans would call that common sense."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: millionaires; millionairetax; obamamillionaires
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To: Steelfish

Obama failed to ention the fact that most of the type on income that is being talked about is FIRST taxed at a corporate rate of 25%, THEN at a personal rate of 15% ...

So, the effective tax rate is REALLY about 40% ...

Obama wants to RAISE the cumulative effective rate to about 55% ...


21 posted on 01/24/2012 10:22:02 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Steelfish
"But asking a billionaire to pay at least as much as his secretary in taxes? Most Americans would call that common sense."

$250K/Year is a billionaire? I wonder if small businesses earning over 250K will lose depreciation?

22 posted on 01/24/2012 10:22:51 PM PST by Mike Darancette (11/06/2012: Starts "Occupy the White House")
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To: Fledermaus
The headline should read, Obama wants to lower the highest Income Tax Bracket by 15%, from 35% to 30%.

Liberal heads would explode.

23 posted on 01/24/2012 10:24:52 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: Steelfish

Start with Warren Buffet!!


24 posted on 01/24/2012 10:30:39 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Steelfish

How many more millionaires just decided to make the move out of America with their money even though it might have to be a permanent move?


25 posted on 01/24/2012 10:33:03 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Lmo56

...not even counting State income taxes, sales taxes, and more.


26 posted on 01/24/2012 10:34:14 PM PST by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: Steelfish

I’d call it common sense if everyone paid the same.

Fix that you fake!

Can’t wait for you to move back to Kenya.


27 posted on 01/24/2012 10:34:43 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Steelfish
The president also said that Americans earning over $250,000 per year should also no longer be able to claim special tax breaks or deductions; he said households earning under $250,000 shouldn't face a tax increase.

A meaningless idiot. We already do. It is called AMT (AKA Alternative Maximum Taking).
28 posted on 01/24/2012 10:36:02 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Steelfish

That’s just the Feds.. The State and Locals also want their cut.


29 posted on 01/24/2012 10:41:45 PM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: Steelfish

So the asshole thinks he gets to dictate what someone “SHOULD” pay without having our Representatives REPRESENT us in writing the damn laws?!

Keep it up BOZO and we will all revolt and refuse to pay ANYTHING, period. Let’s see you and fatass try to make us continue to fund your partying and redistributing OUR wealth. I will close every business we own and refuse to do ANYTHING before I am ruled by someone who thinks he is our KING.


30 posted on 01/24/2012 10:44:01 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Mike Darancette

The Billionaire should shut the F up and pay his secretary’s taxes. End of problem.


31 posted on 01/24/2012 10:46:19 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Fledermaus

I just calculated it. A person who earns exactly $1,000,000 in salary in a year, without any deductions, pays $324,000 in taxes.

That’s an effective tax rate of 32.4%

Of course, that’s salary-based, and not capital gains-based.


32 posted on 01/24/2012 10:46:51 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Steelfish

According to Time magazine, Warren Buffett paid a tax rate of only 11% last year on a gross income of $62 million.

I wonder if Obama’s going to go after Buffett for the rest of his “fair share”.


33 posted on 01/24/2012 10:51:23 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Steelfish
The income tax is a graduated tax, where the percentage paid in taxes increases with the amount earned.

People do not earn 1 million per year. They earn $83,333.33 per month. As each month passes the tax goes up and income (after taxes) goes down as one jumps tax brackets.

The result is, at some point mid way to three quarters through the year, that before tax $83,333.00 becomes less than minimum wage after taxes.

The result is that the individual says, forget it. I already have millions or billions, I am going fishing, play golf, or spend the rest to the year on vacation. Why work more? I will only earn the same as someone flipping burgers. Who needs the trouble?

Companies do the same, they say: I'll send this part of my business to China, where it cannot be taxed to death by the USA.

This is not complicated it is basic math + human nature. Liberals, especially Marxists, understand neither.

34 posted on 01/24/2012 10:52:39 PM PST by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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To: Zeppelin
If someone makes a Million a Year and they don't have any deductions, they are too stupid to make a Million a Year.

And speaking of Joe Biden, it looks like he generously gave a grand total of $326 to Charity last year, which he wrote off on his Taxes of course.

35 posted on 01/24/2012 10:53:23 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: Steelfish

Obama’s not going to tax Democrats at a higher rate.

He had his chance and passed on it.


36 posted on 01/24/2012 10:55:11 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Steelfish

I wonder if they realize that the top 2% of earners pay so large a share of the total income tax burden that if they ever decided to stop working and live off their accumulated wealth the government would be screwed.


37 posted on 01/24/2012 10:58:20 PM PST by albionin
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To: Steelfish

And IF after massive inflation with everyone and their brother making over $300,000 a year - will we all pay the ‘millionaire tax’ rate?


38 posted on 01/24/2012 11:02:11 PM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Steelfish

FUBO


39 posted on 01/24/2012 11:04:29 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: wardaddy
I had to turn Steyn off. He often spews stuff that isn't "office friendly". It made my morning more productive.

Dumbo just can't wait to further crater the economy. The small business people know there is a target painted on their backs.

40 posted on 01/24/2012 11:04:53 PM PST by Myrddin
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