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To: RummyChick

There’s another red flag: The state lottery is asserting, I believe rightfully so, that their process, based in law, requires beneficiaries of trusts to be named and verified. I believe, for purposes of integrity of the prize process to be maintained, this should be the process. I’m looking into finding a specific citation of rule and/or law to make that clear, especially to one particular “internet/arm-char expert” that’s been quite vociferous in this thread with passing their opinion as fact, in a rather condescending, thought-ending cliche manner.


54 posted on 01/27/2012 8:43:59 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Iowa Administrative Code, 705-1.14(3)By submitting a claim, the player also agrees that the prizewinner’s name may be used for publicity purposes by the lottery.


Looks to me that means names of people who ultimately are beneficiaries of lottery winnings are to be recorded, and subject to being used by the lottery for purposes.

Talk-radio program I’m listening to right now had a lottery official on that also said that state law requires disclosure of trust beneficiaries when a trust is claiming a lottery prize.

It appears that the Trust in this case was unwilling to comply, and therefore dropped their claim.


55 posted on 01/27/2012 9:08:45 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Keith in Iowa
I’m looking into finding a specific citation of rule and/or law to make that clear, especially to one particular “internet/arm-char expert” that’s been quite vociferous in this thread with passing their opinion as fact, in a rather condescending, thought-ending cliche manner.

LOL. I showed you the facts to back my statement, directly from the Iowa Lottery. And, I offered you the opportunity to show me something that contradicted it.

I'm glad to see that you accepted the challenge. It would be a lot more interesting than passing off your opinion as fact. I'll even offer you a hint: there are some states that DO require it, by law. Reportedly, Ohio even prohibits the use of a trust altogether, although I haven't verified that.

Don't misunderstand: I think there's a lot of weird things about this case that warrant closer scrutiny. I just don't believe that the law empowers the Iowa Lottery to do anything more than pay the bearer of a valid ticket.

If I were an investigator in the IRS or the equivalent Iowa state agency, I would be examining the trust with a fine-tooth comb, using the powers granted to them by their respective laws. But, that's not the Iowa Lottery's job.

56 posted on 01/27/2012 9:15:06 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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